We Use Food Like a Drug — And It's Destroying Our Health

We're told to to limit drug or not even do drugs like hey look this is something you really need to be careful with. alcohol, you know, as well, smoking, they're like, "Hey, look, this is bad for you. You're going to have it, you need to cut down." Or, you know, alcohol as well. You know, even even you'll have, you know, friends, you know, you might be you might be going out with them on the weekend. And, you know, that's sort of the the nice thing about sort of when you start breaking from the from the norms in your in your group, people say like, "Oh, hey, what's going on?" You know, like maybe it was it was funny in medical school. Uh one of the one of the lecturers said we're talking about alcohol and alcoholism and how you gauge uh if someone's an alcoholic and there's you know different scoring things. He's like okay how how do you know if someone's an alcoholic and someone's brought out like oh well there's this scoring system whatever and he was just like well it tells um do they drink more than you you know it's like it's like obviously I mean you're a doctor for God's sakes obviously you're not going to be an alcoholic so whatever whatever you're drinking if they're drinking that much or less then that's totally fine. like obviously he was joking but um but that's how sometimes people can see it. And so like let's say you're going out on the weekends and you have a group of friends and and you're going out you know Friday, Saturday, whatever. But then all of a sudden you start like going out on Tuesdays and they're like oh okay maybe an odd Tuesday here and there but then your friends like see and now it's a Tuesday and it's a Thursday and it's Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and then all of a sudden there's like you know day drinking on Sundays and things like that. you know, your friends are going to is you might have war with you inside like, hey, you might you might want to reel that back. You know, I mean, this is starting to affect you is starting to get a bit out of control. You need to sort of have that sort of limit on that. So, you have these sort of societal limits even on that. And then obviously the heart drugs, the elicit drugs, you know, um people would just be like, "Oo, yeah, really really shouldn't do that." And and you're told and you know that that's supposed to be limited with processed food. I mean, we're being inundated with people telling us that it's that it's fine. That's not bad for you. There's actually Oh, it's actually good. Oh, it's even better for you. All these processed seed oils. It's better for you than meat and animal fat. All all these studies say it's heart healthy. Yeah, I I can tell you exactly how much, you know, you know, you can take that study in $5 and get a drink at any bar in town, you know. I mean, like it's worth nothing, you know, because these are these are um you know, that doesn't um you know, show you reality like what what's actually happening when people eat these things. people are getting sick and you can have a study that says anything. Who paid for it? Who funded it? You know, how was it done? You know, some survey trial. You give people a whole bunch of, you know, surveys say, "Hey, what did you eat last year?" And they try to figure that out. And you're trying to give something definite from that answer. I mean, it's just nonsense. These are are junk studies. Medicine is one of the softest sciences out there. It's not even a science. It's an application of certain scientific principles, but it is completely soft. I mean there's no there's no scientific discipline or rigor that is that is evident in most of the literature in medicine. It's absolute junk. Um you can't get away with that in physics. You can't get away with that in you know chemistry. These sorts of things like you have to show concretely what something does and even then they can be wrong. So with that that amount of rigor with hundreds of thousands of um of data points sometimes that's even wrong. And so we think that we're going to get, you know, that we're going to get accurate answers by doing a survey and trying to ask people to remember every single meal that they've had in the last year and and you try to glean some information off that. Obviously, it's ridiculous. But, you know, we're we're we're even told you should limit drugs and alcohol. We're also being told you don't need to limit junk food. That's actually fine. There's obesity is genetic. You know, just take ompic. you know that um like oh yeah you know it's just it's really the meat it's really the this it's really you know and it's and so that's even more difficult for people because we're getting we're getting told the wrong thing too. So now you try to come off this stuff like hey I'm going to I'm going to do the carnivore diet and you get all these little trolls online going oh that's ridiculous you're going to die you're going to get killed and you know sugar's not bad for you I mean there's there's there's people like um weirdo Dr. Aloe. He's like a I guess he's a cardiologist, but he um he talks about how, you know, cholesterol is the worst thing ever. Sugar's sugar is fine. You know, sugar is not a big deal. And I think he's talking about like Lucky Charms or Froot Loops or something like that. He was like, but it's some sort of sugar cereal. And and he was like a post someone screenshot it made another post um because it's I'm not going to waste my time looking at his stuff, but and it said, you know, what's wrong with this, you know, sugar cereal? It's just food. It's just food. But he rails against meat. He rails against animal fats, these natural natural foods that we've been eating for millions of years. Uh but but you know, sugar, cereal, that's food. What's wrong with it? It's just food. Food is food. Food is good for you. Can't be bad. You can't be addicted to food. That's what they say, too. You can't be addicted to food, Joe. It's just food. You can't be addicted to food. It's like, I'm sorry, that is not food. You know, someone says to you like, "Well, you can't be addicted to food. You can't be addicted to sugar. Sugar is just food." What would you say to them? Hey everyone, really happy to announce a new sponsor for the show and for everybody down in Australia. 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Whereas if we came across a a beehive with a lot of honey or if we came across a tree with a lot of fruit as a survival instinct, we would have probably tried to eat as much of that as possible and our brain would have said keep on eating it till you can't stop because that is going to give you that little bit of energy to maybe go and get the next animal. So I think it's it's embedded in us to to to want to eat more of these things. Now the problem is so I don't think like you you are I think we're designed to be addicted to it like as a survival mechanism. That's what I think I could be wrong but the problem is these days we don't need it for survival and it's everywhere. So they are hijacking like a primal part of our brain then just that's just saying survive survive survive survive. You need this to catch your next animal or you will die. But it's so accessible to us now and we don't need it. So like yeah I think I think we are we are made to be addicted to these things but now it's everywhere. we've got to actually get rid of it so we don't end up with health problems because I guess nature would have nature would have um regulated things for us you know like as I say it wouldn't have been around all the time it would have been around maybe one month of the year but we're as a society and we've changed so much that when nature isn't regulating us anymore we're making ourselves so then what your brain tells you to to to survive isn't actually needed in the same way as it used to be. So yeah, I think anyone who says they're not addicted, sugar isn't addictive or food isn't addictive. I I I know it's nonsense. I can't I can't I can't agree with it. Um you know, I guess you could even say like steak's addictive. Like we want to keep on eating it. Like it's nice. you know, there is a tendency to eat more meat, but it it regulates itself, but I don't feel like this stuff does like Yeah, it's it's Well, no, I I totally agree with you. You know, I mean, you know, people talk about, you know, I talk about how if something tastes bad, if it tastes bitter, you know, that's your brain warning you like, look, there's chemicals that your brain recognizes, says look, these are bad for you. Don't eat them. And um that's just a normal natural biological response. And it's then it's it's a fact. I mean, it's not my opinion. That's a fact. And I said, well, but you know, kids will eat, you know, give them junk food and they'll just eat that. So, obviously, you know, that disproves that theory. It's like, well, no, that's not that's not what I said. I said, if it tastes bad, then then there's a problem there. I didn't say if it tastes good, there's no problem there. It's just if it's bad. You know, we have these things that are designed to taste good. You get food scientists that taking out different chemicals, changing those chemicals to have a larger expression of flavor even though there's no nutrition behind it. And so that tells your brain, oh, there's something really good coming in. It goes into your stomach and there's nothing useful there. And so you get this this downpouring of this of this stuff because the thing is is your your stomach has receptors that track up to your brain via the vagus nerve and it actually sees which nutrients you have in your stomach. So the vitamins, minerals, proteins, fats, it um it uh can actually see those in your stomach and um and that tracks up to your brain and lets you know. And so this is why, you know, eating steak is self-limiting. You're eating that steak. Your body wants those nutrients and it's saying, "Oh, okay. Look, we've got those and saying, "Hey, we don't need as much. We don't need as much." And now that taste response actually goes down. And so it's self-limiting. All animals know exactly when to stop eating. How? you know, they don't have PhDs in nutrition. They haven't pulled out their calculators, you know, it's like try working a calculator with a hoof, you know, like it's not gonna, you know, they're not, they have to have some sort of natural response inherent to them that just tell them to stop like, it's not really good anymore. And they're not going to go around eating shitty tasting leaves. They're just not. And so, you're right. So, there's that it's actually, you touched on something very um uh important here is called it's called an evolutionary trap. you have these things that give that that's good signal, but now it's attached to something that's not really good for you. So, it's a trap. So, food scientists use these evolutionary trap. They'll get these these chemicals that give that yes, that's good signal. Um, but then they change it and they modify it so it gives an even stronger signal taste, but goes away very quickly. So, it's not like this lingering flavor and you have to want you want more and more. And the thing is it's not attached to an actual nutrient anymore. So now it goes into your stomach. Your stomach's looking your your stomach track your body tracks nutrients. It doesn't track calories. And so now it's looking for nutrients. There are no nutrients there. And so your hunger doesn't abate. And so that big taste signal, it just keeps coming. It keeps coming. It keeps coming. Where if you're eating a steak, that taste sensation goes down and down and down until it doesn't taste good anymore. And I'm I'm sure you've noticed that. And I encourage people, you eat fatty meat until it stops tasting good because it will stop tasting good. And that's how you know that your body's had enough. Junk food, processed food that is designed to be addictive won't stop tasting good because there's no nutrition behind it. So for that flavor to go down uh for for that flavor expression to go down. So it's they're taking advantage of this evolutionary trap. It's just oo that's really good, but there's no actual no actual payoff. So you keep getting that that hit. Also sugar again is addictive. You know this we'd find this in fruit. we'd find find this in abundantly in honey. Um the fruit that we're eating now is very different than the fruit that existed 10,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago. I mean, even you know, a few hundred years ago, some of these fruits have been radically changed. And as you look at, you know, people can Google this. You just look at the um you know, the origin of the original banana or the original mango, the original avocado, what these things were bred from. usually a massive seed and very little, you know, pulp meat, you know, the fruit part that you actually want. Uh, and like bananas, just tons of seeds. There's not just much to eat there. And because that's the, you know, the plant wants to move the seed. They don't, you know, that's that's the the um the drive. We wanted the sugar. So, we cultivated these things to have more sugar or things like tomatoes or avocados, whatever, to have more of the part that we want. We've bred these things selectively and a lot of the the sweeter fruits have a massive increase in the amount of sugar that they have, you know, five, six times more or more of sugar in them than they would in their natural counterparts would. You know, a little crab apple that would be natural out there. They're pretty sour. You know, they're not they're not very sweet. Now, you get these golden delicious sort of things which aren't delicious at all. They're usually mealy, but you know, they have a lot of sugar in them. A lot of these these these things will have sugar in them and um and so you know we've designed these things to be much more sweet and instead of like you said only being available once a month one month a year or a few weeks out of the year these things are ripe and it's going to be self-limiting because there's only there's only so much of it. It's only around certain part of the year and it's not anywhere close to as sweet. You know it might not have even been all that interesting for for people to eat back then. It's not going to be like getting a mango now. mangoes, original mangoes were very fibrous, not very sweet at all and a big seed and mostly seed in there. So, you know, like they wouldn't they wouldn't have been as attractive as they are now. And they certainly weren't available like they are now. Whereas now, you can be in, you know, in northern England and get mangoes every single day, you know, and why the hell is that? So, obviously that's that's um you know, that that's going to It would be a departure from how we would have would have normally eaten. And people can can knock it all they want, pretend all they like, but you know what a species has been eating the longest is what is best for them flat out. Well, we figured out through technology that this No, no, we haven't. No, no, no. That's just yours. That's just your assertion. It's wrong, though. You know, what we've been exposed to the longest is what is best for us. That's a fact. That's a biological fact. And uh people deny that. They're just, you know, science deniers. They're just denying biology or they just don't know. But, um, you know, but yeah, so there's evolutionary traps. Like there's um there's like hummingbirds that like normally they go for these like little red flowers and they're sort of the elongated flowers. So they'll go in there and get some some nectar out of there. Um, for a while they used these um these little sort of fasteners on uh electric fencing in like you know different parts of America like in the Midwest and and it was like a red color. So it was sort of kind of the same shape as these flowers that these hummingbirds wanted these sort of long flowers and also um they were red and so these hummingbirds would come in and so go in like they're they're trying to get nectar and they'd hit the electric fence and they'd die. So it's like killing off all these hummingbirds. So that's an evolutionary trap. That's what they did. They had to change the color of it. They just changed the color and now they weren't interested in it anymore. So it's that same thing for us. These food scientists and processed food companies, you know, start, you know, with the tobacco companies that bought up um Philip Morris and all these places bought up uh these big food manufacturers in the 80s. They became the largest processed food manufacturers in the world. They started trying to make things as addictive as possible. they had huge success with that and all the other processed food companies started following suit and um and they're getting they're taking advantage of that evolutionary trap in us. You know the sugar we would not see all that often. We would not necessarily find just you know um you know beehive every you'd have to like deal with the bees you know you know until we managed fire and figured out how to smoke these things out. That wasn't really an option. I mean, you could die from from the amount of beastings that you get trying to raid uh a hive. So, you know, that's something we had to figure out. And you're not going to find it every single day, you know, and so, you know, and especially with the fruit, there's only going to be available certain at certain times. So, we we sort of noticed that as like, okay, this is safe. This is going to give me some energy. This can help me through the winter, maybe, you know, or give me that boost of energy so I can go and get a kill. But now, we're just getting it every single day. And it hits that evolutionary trap of just eat de eat and uh and it's very addictive and um you know and and the unfortunately the food companies are taking advantage of that. Hey guys, just want to take a second to thank our sponsor Carnivore Bar. I don't promote many products because honestly all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat. For those times that you're out hiking, road tripping, or stuck at work and you want nutritious snack that is just meat, fat, and salt if you want it. The Carnivore Bar is a great option. 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You know, even diet can actually help with these sorts of things like like there there are studies with ketogenic diets when when when um alcoholics are coming off of, you know, alcohol withdrawal and and sometimes you have to be, you know, in in rehab and things like that or not even rehab in the hospital because if if you're really addicted to alcohol can the withdrawal can be very dangerous, you know, and so um you know, coming off of of heroin while it's, you know, very uncomfortable. you feel like you have just like the worst flu ever. Um, people say the same thing about if they're heavily addicted to sugar too. Sometimes they feel like they get a flu, that keto flu, things like that. That can be from withdrawal. Um, but with alcohol, it can actually be dangerous. You can get seizures and you can you can die. Seizures can be fatal. And so they they have to, you know, give them bzzoazipines to sort of, you know, slow down, you know, the DTS. And um there's certain criteria on you know the the nurses or doctors might you know you know be observing them so okay you know if it gets to this point then we're going to give another dose of this and so they did a um a control trial with um alcoholics and um so they had one group on a ketogenic diet and one group just eating whatever and both coming off of alcohol in the hospital. And they found that not only they did subjectively like the people expressed it like hey this was easier for me. I didn't have I didn't you know rating their their um their level of withdrawals and how bad they felt with it. They were rating them ranking them much lower than the other group but then objectively the keto group didn't need as much benzoazipines to keep them out of the DT. So they actually detox and withdrew um much more easily and much more readily than than the other group. And I I think that you know um you know then that again that there there's like there's there's the addictive aspects of all of these things and when you start getting rid of one it becomes easier to you know get rid of the others and also your your brain sort of working a bit better. you're a bit more clear and you're like, I don't I don't actually need this other substance to, you know, to, you know, play a role anymore. I'm actually good without it. They need medication, but they're maybe those medications aren't working so well. So, they turn to, you know, elicit drugs and alcohol in order to help something, you know, make them feel better in some way. But it it could very well be that, you know, people turn to these things even if they don't have something as severe as that, but they just feel like garbage.