The 7 Major Hormones that Encourage Fat-loss, Body Composition, and Youthful Aging!

hormones govern hunger and satiety they govern sleep and they also tell the body when to use fat for energy when to store fat for safekeeping or when to oxidize mobilizer for energy I have no idea about that there's seven of them that play a major role in lipolysis what we call Fat Loss right and he gave me the seven hormones and then he said to me okay these are the major hormones that are responsible for licis along with the next line he said welcome to the plant-free MD podcast with Dr Anthony chaffy where we discuss diet and nutrition and how this affects health and chronic disease and show you how you can use this to optimize your health and happiness both mentally and physically all right hello everyone thank you for joining another episode of the plant-free MD I'm your host Dr Anthony chaffy and today I have a special guest Anthony from the lean 7 uh 10we program did I get that right man it it's Anthony and Anthony today that's it so um Anthony so so you started the The Lean s uh program which we we will talk about as well but for people that don't don't know you haven't come across you can you tell us a bit about you and and what you do yeah so my name is Anthony I'm from Adelaide Australia and I've been a personal trainer since 2001 and uh I majored initially when I started personal training it was back back before personal training was very very popular so I think uh a lot of the time I spent in PT was was Sports specifics so I started training track and field athletes uh namely sprinters and marathon runners and then in 2004 uh the first ever season of The Biggest Loser was televised and um a lot of the personal trainers at the time were find it very difficult to get work because it wasn't as it is today when people are so conscious about body Transformations and getting into shaping getting jacked back then it was difficult to get work as a PT ongoing work it was reserved for sports specific and it was reserved for celebrities okay or those who had like money to get a personal trainer but once this Biggest Loser came out and all these Transformations were coming through then it moved into this new Niche that everybody wanted a personal trainer for body composition or just transforming for weight loss so then I got out of sports specific into into weight loss Transformations but from 04 to 09 I messed everything up I had no idea how to get people in shape I had no idea about nutrition back then so I thought money I thought um exercise was the m to fix it and the harder I train my clients they just kept dropping off they didn't come back so and so that went on till 2009 and then I moved to London and I got a job working as a PT in a very very famous um gym there in London London and through that work a lot of the pts they were much older than I was a lot very very educated and I was introduced to a doctor it was a very switched on Doctor actually bit like yourself and um one day I was at his practice and we're doing some blood weight for a patient and I said to him you know what man I've been at this weight loss game for the last five years and I haven't been able to nail what does it take to help people lose weight get in shape you know all of that and he said basically Anthony he said that if you want to understand Health Wellness longevity fat loss comp body composition you want to say all of that you've got to pay attention to this thing called hormones okay now I had an idea what hormones were back then I was bit embarrassed and I said what do you mean by hormones he goes well hormones are these chemical Messengers and they tell the body how to perform certain tasks and I remember saying like like what he said well did you know that I I just got back from Spain at the time and I was tanned and he looked at my tan and he said to me do you you know that tanning there's a hormone that governs the tanning process I had no idea okay so wow hormones govern tanning it goes here hormones govern hunger and satiety they govern sleep and they also tell the body when to use fat for energy when to store fat for safekeeping or when to oxidize mobilize it for energy I said have no idea about that he said yeah so then he gave me this homework and he said um tonight I want you to go and try and figure out try and find out what these hormones are there's seven of them that play a major role in lipolysis what we call Fat Loss right I came back the next day and um I got I think one right the rest were wrong and he gave me the seven hormones and then he said to me okay these are the hormones that are these are the major hormones that are responsible for lipolysis along with the next line he said lifestyle choices lifestyle interventions Drive hormones and hormones do the rest so the lifestyle choices that we make on a daily basis whether we do them on purpose or by default all right they drive these hormones and the and the body does the rest so what we eat when we eat how much we eat what time we go to bed whether we exercise if we exercise all of these they drive hormones and the hormones to the rest now early on when we're in our youth we have we have organ Reserve our hormones are are lot they're not they're not as disregulated as we are as when we get older okay because of the errors in judgment through lifestyle our hormones become more and more disregulated and what we used to get away with we just no longer do everybody knows that right I I used to be when I was younger with the boys would go out you know go out clubbing at 3:00 4 in the morning we're all drunk you get a kebab and you go home wake up in the morning you got abs you know everything's fine but you know what I'm trying to say but as you get older we just can't get away with the lifestyle choices we once used to and we wonder what's going on so the lean 7 is a 10we program that covers the seven major hormones that are responsible for fat loss body recomposition and a little youth a little concept I come to use known as youthful aging okay we'll talk about that in a second about youthful aging and so yes so I uh since 2009 I've been applying the lean 7 on literally hundreds of clients just by correcting lifestyle interventions and then the hormones do the rest of course everybody has them we just work on certain lifestyle choices that upregulate hormones and then yeah and then we create um optimal body composition based on that and funny enough a lot of it I didn't know that till uh you know I didn't know that to a few years ago but a lot of it's governed around the ketogenic diet SL M carnivore diet so yeah yeah so okay so you you would use well can you talk a bit about those those hormones and what we can do in our lifestyle to affect them perfect so the first hormone that I tell everybody to get right and in the course it's called I like to call it the damage control hormone I'll explain what it is in a second but there was a a socialite back in the 30s named Will Rogers and he once made a statement he said when you find yourself stuck in a hole stop digging M okay so when you when you find yourself in an untenable position it pays you to stop exasperating the process and digging yourself deeper into a hole and that first hormone is of course insulin so we call that the damage control hormone because if you don't know how to master this one hormone insulin which is the key regulator of fat metabolism if your goal is to mobilize f for fuel and you're not controlling insulin you don't you don't have a hope or prayer in ever uh losing body fat so that's the first hormone so master that one first that create damage control first and once we can master that one we can use the other six lipolytic hormones which are fat mobilizing hormones to help upregulate lipolysis okay so that's that first one then this thing called youthful aging I like to share and Youthful aging I use this because over the years as a personal trainer now this by the way this is no judgment call this is purely stating and observation okay so over the years as a PT I used to work with a lot of bodybuilders now granted bodybuilders are very um dedicated committed disciplined and extreme because they they deal with an extreme sport and they want extreme outcomes and extreme extreme outcomes require Extreme Measures so they would eat uh the way that a normal bodybuilder would eat and the foods that they would eat but one common denominator I noticed amongst the ones that I trained and some of the conventions and Expos I used to go to is premature aging they look great from the neck and down but they look quite weathered from the neck and up and once I started using the lean 7 I started noticing that a lot of my clients were not only slowing down but they're even showing signs of age reversal so I I want to share why this is important because nowadays in the in the so-called health and fitness I don't know why we use those two terms together right we use health and we use Fitness but really I don't know why we do that because it's not always the case just because you're fit does not necessarily mean you're healthy and do you know what I'm trying to say yeah yeah so um we we see a lot of bodybuilders a lot of fitness model we use them as authorities because somebody's in shape they must be healthy because someone's got a six-pack or they got muscles they must be really really healthy and nothing could be further from the truth they've just got visible ABS they just got very low body fat and they got muscle mass there but you can't scan inflammation you can't scan it on my fitness pal so so the certain the certain um certain ways people use to get themsel into to look a certain way right doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be healthy and so because someone's in shape they have this Authority that they're healthy and um what I've noticed is you've got to be healthy to get in shape not getting shape to be healthy there's a difference so you've got to drive Health First and once you drive Health it should never be about body composition it should just be about driving Health that is and what's the definition of Health it's one universal definition that is the absence of disease that's that's Health in a nutshell the absence of disease disease the body is experiencing a lack of ease I mean digestive issues are a disease the topic dermatitis is a disease also colitis a disease so once you get healthy and this is why my course the lean 7 is healthy lean young because you've got to be healthy to get lean not get lean to be healthy once you get healthy once we drive Health you start getting leaner and as you start getting leaner a lot of the other hormones I haven't spoken about yet like growth hormone and testosterone they work more optimal in a lean state especially growth hormone so the leaner you able to get yourself and growth hormones been it's it's known as the anti-aging or the Fountain of Youth hormone that's the hormone we want to make sure that we keep as much as we can as we get old because we go through a process of somato PA whereby we lose growth hormon as we get older but as you start getting leaner then you start showing signs of slowing down or even reversing the aging process I mean look at Maggie okay look at Maggie so clearly she's doing something to slow down or reverse the aging process there yeah okay and yeah so that's what the lean 7 program is it's the it covers the seven major hormones over a 10 week um modules and each week we show we showcase one hormone and all of the associated lifestyle interventions necessary to to maximize the production of this hormone nice and so how long have you been doing that now so now so lean s lean I've been practicing lean s with my clients at a micro level since 2009 but it's been um now available to the market since last August Okay so we've had it since last August now I need to also stress that the lean servant program you can't just purchase it and sit and forget it's not just another one of these programs whereby you purchase it and you're on your own you everyone who does the lean s program has an has an allocated lean 7even coach who either they're a personal trainer or they've done the course themselves and they've had incredible results and they're qualified in some way to guide typically personal trainers would do that and so I need to also let people know that there's a difference between knowing what to do and doing what you know once you get the program a mentor of mine said to me many years ago he said Anthony clients never do what's expected clients do what's inspected yeah okay and so a great coach is nothing more than than an accountability partner or more like a glorified accountability partner they just hold you accountable to your goals so when you do the lean 7 course and you go through week by week and you're handing in your before and afters or your progress pictures and your measurements and you've been held accountable to your goals that changes the entire ball game that's what makes the difference and I think that's the missing link so yeah yeah well I I I was just going to say that that you see that with you know any any sort of patient population where you get them get them on a new sort of treatment program especially when it's it's some sort of lifestyle intervention that they have to affect themselves you can't do it for them that and it's not just oh here's a pill go away and take a pill it's you're actually putting them on a program that they have to do if you if you don't sort of keep on top of them then some people will have some self motivation but it really does help to have that accountability hey they're I'm going to come in I'm they're going to see me they're going to you know see what I've done you might put them on a scale or whatever your metric is and and that sort of makes them oh okay I'm not going to cheat I'm not going to do this I'm actually GNA you know actually follow actually follow the program um Sophia Clemens in Hungary with paleo medicina she found that uh that you had to be really on top of people you know someone had cancer autoimmunity they met with them every day every single day they checked in and they had to come in be like okay what's going on what do you eat what's going on how are you doing and uh you know especially the cancer patients they they really had tight control over them uh for at least a certain period of time then then maybe they they you know put some slack in in the Rope but but they said you just have to be on them every day and then other people that I've that I've spoken to they say were weekly is really what you want you have to have them come in every single week to be accountable obviously that can be difficult when you have a lot of patients you can't necessarily see everybody every time or every week just for patient load sort of uh issues but um it definitely makes it better you know when I when I have my patients that come in and you know they they sort of they stay in every couple weeks are the ones that make more progress and the ones that just like every couple months they come oh yeah I've sort of had some trouble and this that and the other it's like yep that makes sense you know because some people stay on track so I I some people that that are great I see every couple months be like yeah you're doing great on track yep perfect and and others they they fall off and they need that accountability so yeah I've seen that make a big difference for people what I've noticed my experience has been is those who have reasons stronger the reasons are the the greater the likelihood they St in track yeah and so a good coach is able to bring out those underlying motivations the real deep deep um deep embedded emotional reasons as to why they're doing something they say you have to make your why cry get to a place really where um you can't see yourself um going back to old ways MH and all you have now I mean it shouldn't take the crisis of life to to cause people to make change but you know sometimes people have no other choice once the crisis hits okay because most of the times no news is good news right we think it's because we have no bad news maybe it's okay but doesn't mean it's not coming and so I find that those who have strong reasons when the why gets stronger the how gets easier when the why gets stronger the how gets easier so if you can bring out as a coach real strong emotional reasons as to why you want to do this and and what it means to you uh then then chances are excellent you're going to stick it out now the other thing I should mention also in this course people learn a lot about themselves and you may even know that during carnivore or people that are doing the carnivore it actually the diet it what it does is it brings to the surface a lot of your your bad habits or your ways of being your coping mechanisms that you would use in the past it brings everything brething to the surface and then when you're working with somebody else they can't hide from that it really it really showcases who they are yeah and so me as a coach I like to encourage people to focus on the person they want to become not the person that they currently are it's more so it's more so who must you be to achieve what you want what version what platform do you have to rise up and play at to attract that new reality that you're after because the current the current version of yourself is obsolete if if if who you are being right now was enough to give you the results that you wanted you would have had them already true so so really when somebody says to me but I can't do this and I can't do that my response is well I'm not asking you whether you can or can't based on the current version of you what would the grandest version of you say right now what would the best best ever version of you say right now they say let's do it but the current version of you is obsolete the current version of you is getting what they're getting right now that your current thinking has brought about your current circumstances and now the challenge is you're forced to rely on your current thinking to change your current circumstances and you can't do that you see so that's what a good coach does it sort of allows them we bring out a lot of personal development we sort of raise up reasons What stopped you in the past of achieving what you wanted you know I I procrastinate or I I start something I don't finish it or I uh I say I haven't got enough time I love this by the way Anthony when someone says to me I don't have enough time the first thing I do I said do you have an iPhone they go yeah let's check your screen time yeah you be you would be shocked I have no time nine hours scream time yeah Jesus nine hours of scream time and it just humbl them there and there I've got time hey guys just want to take a second to thank our sponsor at carnivore bar I don't promote many products 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I think I think it's important from a body composition point of view to to get some kind of metric because the scale is very fickle and I'm not a big relier on the scale I like to use tape measures I like to use calipers and so forth maybe sometimes Dexter scans and whatever but yes so stage one is where are we right now stage two is where would we love to be and by what date so I say where would you love to be more so if everything was to fall your way let's say sky was the limit because a lot of people plan ahead based on what they were able to achieve in the past I say I'm not sure I could achieve I've never I've never I've never lost that much weight before in the past so I don't think I can actually I going ask you I going ask you what you think I I'd ask you burning desire if everything was the four you way what would you truly love and so we set the goals and we put a we put a deadline on it and the deadline needs to be realistic it needs to be achievable and also because deadlines bring a sense of urgency okay the stage one is where are we stage two is where would we love to be and by what date stage three here's here's stage three how are we going to get there well what's the battle plan number one the battle plan needs to be healthy that's rule number one we got to chase Health you got to be healthy to get in shape not get in shape to think you're healthy number two here's really important note to me the method we use to get you there is what you need to maintain it guy says and I lost 40 Kg on the Cabbage diet well congrats enjoy cabage the rest of your life yeah okay so the method we use to get you there is what you'll need to maintain it the battle plan also you can't manage what you don't measure without some detailed plan of attack you don't know how to make changes if you ever hit a roadblock or plateau in some way now I'm not big on what we call calories and Counting because if you get people eating the food we're designed to eat by Nature over time we reach our optimal body composition just the way that it works on the Carnival diet you can't not reach optimal body composition if you're eating how you're supposed to eat it's just how we're designed I mean every animal in the world is able to achieve optimal body composition effortlessly m and US way with humans are still wondering why how um by the way I'm going to share with you it actually I see if I can do it right now because I wrote this a while ago um it's titled name an name an animal in the wild okay I'll share a few with you right now name an animal in the wild that eats anything other than their species appropriate diet name an animal in the wild that weighs their food and controls portion sizes none name an animal in the wild with a food addiction name an animal in the world that lives to eat rather than eats to live name an animal in the world that counts their calories and stresses over macros right name an animal in the wild that does not eat to satiety mhm name an animal in the wild that rewards themselves with food because they've been good yeah name an animal in the wild that eats five to six more meals a day name an animal in the wild that preps their food name an animal in the world that creates extravagant dishes with food you know name an animal in the wild that strives for a balanced diet mhm you know all the colors of the rainbow and you know must get the nutrient green and purple and orange exactly that drives me now yeah I thought myself this ain't Skittles man exactly yeah I me maybe that's what they're pushing for they're pushing for Skittles U name an animal in the wild that gets food cravings name an animal in the wild that has a cheat meal on the weekend name an animal in the wild that does not eat single ingredient Foods name an animal in the wild that dies of a human disease name an animal in the wild whose food comes in barcodes name an animal in the wild that's midly obese yeah and finally um name an animal in the wild that eats for Taste rather than for purpose you see we're the only animals that do that all of that is a human construct isn't it so so a lot of a lot of the things that I teach is not it's a lot of it's geared around personal development and it's important to sort of speak about that because because we know we know we need to be eating this way but we struggle with not doing it yeah okay going back to those five stages so we had stage three was the battle plan how are we going to get there okay that's stage three that's the battle plan it's the carnival SL ketogenic diet I like to start people on the ketogenic diet because that was my journey into carnivore initially going from the sad diet into by the way sad also species appropriate diet did you know that there you go so going from a standard Australian or standard American diet into the ketogenic diet which has a lot of Liberty there's a lot of food choices in the in the ketogenic diet and then from there they tend to or we tend to sort of just experiment with um they start feeling so good and it's like would you like the opportunity to just see whether you can feel better maybe they may have some um some issues with certain plant toxins and we start eliminating them to a place here's what I found those who do the carnivore diet the ones who really do it and I'm told talking they commit a minimum of 90 days on the carnivore diet are you ready for this I have a 100% record no one goes back nice simply because of how they feel man yeah it's just it's it's someone say to you but don't you get sick and tired of eting the same every day and I'm like man let's talk about it well cows don't get sick and tired of beinga grass every single day so but for me personally and for my clients everybody else I can't get sick and tired of of feeling like myself every day yeah to get sick and tired of that I always want to feel like me yeah don't you get sick and tired of being sick and tired wow good one yeah don't you get sick and tired of being sick and tired yeah you had this awesome video that was like a 30 second clip man I saved that because it was really good it was about you you were talking to two other guys and you were saying something along the lines of a when you when you do 30 days on the carnivore you're going to feel like this and then you're going to get a contrast of what it's like once you reintroduce and you said something about like people just treat normal once you go up here normal just doesn't cut it anymore you said remember that yeah and that's the feeling why I feel people when they do the carnivore diet and they really do it and and and they look their best feel their best perform their best they just cannot fathom they just can't go back to old ways they can't it's just like they can't they can't associate with that person anymore e yeah they just can't associate with that person so that's the three stages fourth stage this is probably the best Stage I like and that is how do we know if we're on track like I said earlier clients don't do what's expected clients do what's inspected with a good coach every Monday we have measurement Monday so why do I have it Monday because most people fall off the wagon on the weekend so when you know you're going to have your your coach demand photos and measurements on the Monday we do it for two reasons number one for compliance reasons is my client following advice are they wasting time or number two maybe we have to make some changes what if you plateaued in some way what's going on that's the two reasons we have that stage four that is how do we know if we're on track and the fifth and final stage is what do we do once we get there two things number one celebrate number two set new goals and that's those five stages where are we right now where would we love to be and by what date how are we going to get there how do we know if we're getting there and what do we do when we get there and I find once we cover those the job gets done now on the website you'll see many testimonials on there of before and afters and people just um you know sharing their experience and my goal with this is just to help as many people that need that extra bit of help okay yeah so that's that's the the seven the seven hormones of lean seven I'm really excited to keep sharing it with the world and um that's my it's my little baby that I like to I'm proud of it man because I put a lot of work into that thing yeah nice yeah well that's good man well I mean look it it sounds very comprehensive and especially with the you know keeping people on track keeping them accountable that's obviously going to be very good for them you know sometimes people just go on a on a plan they're like here you go go do it and you either do it or you don't you know you do sort of I mean some people are self-motivated I I was self-motivated for this just because I but I had I had a reason you know it's just like yeah I learned how toxic plants were I'm like I have no interest in putting that garbage in my body and so I just I just stopped and it wasn't hard for me it wasn't an issue there but you know not everybody is has that sort of bombshell moment where they go yopee no no no more of that absolutely never again and and then you do it and you see how wonderful you feel and you're like yeah and it just reinforces it along the way but when you don't have that obviously you need to you need to keep people on track until they sort of experience that and they get those results that they've never gotten before and they feel better than they've felt before and they're coming off medications and they're improving their health and they're aging backwards I mean you know there there are women that have been in menopause for five six seven years that go on a carnivore diet and three four five months later they start having their period again you are literally aging backwards if you you have now come out of menopause you are now a fertile adult woman whereas you were now you were previously post-menopausal old lady right hormonally speaking you know and so that's that's a dramatic difference in a dramatic response and so when people see that now a lot of people women in their 50s don't want to have their their periods again um but it is a testimony to the fact that their body is improving dramatically from a health perspective and when you when you get to that level it's it's easier to perpetuate um alcohol seems to be one that uh that people slip up with even if they're having good results and they're doing this for a long time then they they go out and drink and then they that lowers their inhibitions to eat the other things and they sort of slip up and then they ah well they just sort of go back to their normal thing not realizing hey you just fall off the wagon just jump back on you know slip up once or it's like a it's a planned event like okay I'm going to go to this wedding I'm just going to have some drinks but that's it and then I'm back on plan you know on you know measurement Monday and um you know people people can can do that sometimes so other other other times people can't they just you know you just have to abstain just like any sort of other sort of addictive substance but um I guess that supposedly I suppose that that gets into the other sort of question which is U you we were talking about a mindset as well what is about that why is it some people are just bang on you tell them what to do and they just go right ahead and other people that really have a difficult time switching over to that and even though intuitively and intellectually they say like I know this is right I see all these people I want to do it I just can't do it yeah that is the mystery question I personally believe that some people just aren't willing to part ways with their old with their old habits there who would you be without it if someone quit sugar I quit sugar and we'll talk about let's talk for a second because I was a I was a a chocaholic from the age of you know my mother from a young age would bring I love my mom to bits but she'd bring home chocolates every day you know Pavlov's dog with the Bell I'd hear the keys in the house she come in and I'd go rushing to her handbag because she'd already have chocolate in there every time we're talking a guy this is somebody who could not go to the movies without eating something sweet for me I Associated the movies with with sweets and I could not finish a meal without something sweet so so when I gave up sugar it was painful Anthony you know how painful I was checking into rehab every day man it's a drug yeah it's a drug so some people aren't willing to divorce setle um put to bed say goodbye once and for all their old ways they're not willing to do that that's a threat to them I mean eating bad food is not much of a threat as it is for them to say goodbye to the very things that have been the cause of their self- sabotage how how can you find how can how can the very thing that's causing you sabotage how can you find that difficult to give up you know why because it's not just the food you have to give up when you say goodbye to that food you're also saying goodbye to every memory you've had with that food every memory every person who was involved with that memory my parents are Greek we love food man we we do everything's GE geared around food there's a christening on this weekend next week There's a name day the week after is the birthday like there's always food around and you celebrate with food well when you don't eat a certain way anymore and you've said no not having desserts no way no ice cream every everything that you associate with food all those memories have to go as well and some people AR willing to do that Anthony yeah you see but the ones that do make it the ones that do have a strong reason they're the ones that have made their mind up once like if you make your mind up too many times like there's four stages in problem solving okay stage one admit you have a problem stage two State the problem stage three find a solution and take take action and here stage four never never ever ever speak about that problem again only the solution be the reason why many people fail is because they spend too much time wallowing around on the solution part no you state the problem once you find a solution and take action once and you never speak about it again because you've dealt with it in stage three but it's almost becomes the more you attempt to solve a problem do you know what a rounded nut looks like arounded you're trying to unscrew oh right yeah you're trying to unscrew a nut and the constant attempts that you're trying to unscrew it rounds the nut further yeah yeah I kind of picture that with people trying to solve a problem it's like the constant attempts that they try to solve one problem it gets to a place where they've exhausted every possibility that they can't even they can't even trust their own problem solving abilities anymore yeah you know because you in the back of your mind your your brain's going to say to you oh we've heard that before buddy in what way will this time be different you know Anthony it's the start of the year it's 2024 I need to lose 20 kilos your brain okay I get that in what way will this time be different than the other 12 15 years that you were saying that you wanted to do that yeah do you see what I'm trying to say here so there needs to be some Catalyst something that says enough is enough or something that says that's it I don't want to do this anymore now unfortunately for a lot of people it's it's it's a health it's it's a health tragedy like it's something that's that's you know shocking like it's that um I thing I shared with Bart last when I did another video with Bart K I gave him the four seasons of Change by um who's who said the four seasons of change uh John Maxwell okay here are the four seasons of change the first season of change is when it hurts so much that you have to make change H okay the guy's got the guy's got chronic gout can't walk you know just can't eat any more food he's got issues with his stomach the guy just has no choice he wakes up in the morning he's he got blurred vision you know the guy needs to make change so the first season of change is where it hurts so much that you have to change the second season of change is when you've seen so much you're inspired to change the third season of change is when you've learned so much that you want to change and the fourth season of change is when you've been given back so much that you can you know that's the four seasons of change now when it comes to health and fitness and being in shape unfortunately for some people that first season when it hurts so much that you have to change but unfortunately these days the first symptom of a heart attack is death yes sometimes yes sometimes it's too late man yeah yeah you know you can't just you can't just rely on that I love I love a quote by Jim Rowan and I'm a I'm a big Jim Rowan student I used to love listening to his stuff back in the old days back in the 80s right and he had two definitions he had the definition of success and the definition of failure here's what he said failure was failure is a few errors in judgment repeated every day a few errors in judgment repeated every day should have gone the ribey chose a heriba we call that an error in judgment now he says to the he said to the audience why would we continue to perform errors in judgment every single day for 10 years and here's the answer to that because disaster does not fall on us at the end of the first day that's why we continue doing it but if every bite of a meal you shouldn't have eaten had an anaphylactic reaction that'll get you thinking about that food wouldn't it yeah I um I often see that in autoimmune patients right you have to be very strict with autoimmunity your body's reacting these things are harming your body your body's reacting to them fighting this and and um causing this you know immune response people with crohn's disease or rheumatoid arthritis ulcer colitis they have they have pretty extreme pretty immediate you know um ramifications for eating the wrong thing and so they have bloody diarrhea for the rest of the day or two days three days or they their joints flare up and they get a they get a hit of of RoR arthritis uh Hashimoto is uh much more subtle because you get a subtle yeah and so you get you get a flare up you get you know more attacking on your thyroid and it just sort of slowly insidiously lowers the uh production of thyroid hormone and this can take weeks it can take months and so you have this big flare up and it just sort of just slowly builds up and then you don't notice the slight decrease in thyroid hormone as you go and then you don't necessarily you know this has knock on effects for how you feel so it could be weeks before you sort of notice that so you're already sort of behind the ball so I find that that people with Cron's ulcer citis rheumatory arthritis things like that when they get a big response right away it's very easy for them to stay on track because they're like I was on Carnival for three weeks I'm in full remission I'm off my meds never going back never going back ate a piece of celery and like you know had a huge problem so no never going back very easy for them it's much more subtle with Hashimoto and it can actually take longer to get the the antibodies down and so you know people don't need to be as strict necessarily out of out of necessity just they're sort of trusting the process you show them their bloods you show them their antibodies coming down they go like okay yeah am feeling better I'm coming down off the medication so that you know they'll stay in it but it's uh some people are just just um you know not as it's not as able to be as you know strict like red meat and water as uh as possible so and you know what you were saying you really reminded me of a of a a quote from hypocrates about you know people not having you know like a reason not wanting to sort of give up the different things and and the quote was you know before you heal someone ask them if they are willing to give up the things that make them SE them seek yes used to say the most incredible things but that one should be done on any like before I start you know working with you that should be the first question to ask and the only question to ask are you willing to give it up because if you're not what's the point of working with you yeah exactly how's that that's a paradigm shift in thinking straight away isn't it that just cuts you at the ankles it's like okay this person means business yeah yeah and I love that I love that B book um the other thing so so so he said so that was failure right a few errors in judgment repeated every day is failure now he said success is a few simple disciplines practiced every day that's the difference between success and failure now in a year from now people will surely arrive the question is where in a year from now will they arrive what a wise person does Anthony is asks themselves they don't they don't they're not naive in what feels good in the moment they don't fall for that naivity of what feels good in the moment they ask themselves how are my present judgments in the moment how my errors in my present judgment going to cost me 18 months from now 2 years from now now not in the moment because in the moment whether you choose to do a ribey or a Hershey bar in the moment the ribey is not going to give you a six-pack straight away and the hershe in the moment it's not going to give you type two diabetes not in the [Music] moment so if that's the case let's go the Hershey buff because it tastes good it's going to maybe make me feel good for 96 seconds and that's why people so a wise person does not actually um they don't they don't fall for the um you know the they don't fall for the what just what feels good man in the moment they don't feel they don't fall for that they ask themselves okay how's that going to cost me two years from now nobody has nobody has a bit of cake and then says with every bite wow that's that's contributing to Beta amalo in the brain it's going to give me aight no one no one does that you see we have this we have this Amnesia when it comes to food we we we know it's causing us harm and then I mean the reason why I say this an is because I've heard it so many times from relatives from clients and whatever it's the last time I'm never touching this ever again two weeks down the track they complet forget that they were in the fetal position four hours okay and then they go out and they completely forget that that food that they've had made them feel so bad and like hey I wouldn't mind a bit of Cheesecake today I was like you had it three weeks ago and you said you're never going to go back there ever again so they just completely forget yeah and they buy into what feels good in the moment I think that I may be the only person who ever done that I remember having a deep fried Mars bar in New Zealand and it was one of the best things I've ever it was just insane how good this was I remember it just like oh my God this is disgusting like I was like this is at least one heart attack and like this is what I'm buying myself this is one heart attack and I'm like okay well you know what I'm buying one heart attack like that was amazing but I'm like I am not going for two heart attacks so like I never ate another one but I it was it was it was it was really damn good but I thought about that at the time I was just like this this will cause me a heart attack and that's I'm just I had to weigh that that was that was the price I paid and I just accepted that um but yeah um just gonna say I unfortunately I have um have have to run my next meeting that's right yes for the hour man that's it of course all good all good I I I wish we keep talking man it's been absolutely amazing we'll do it again we'll do it absolutely AB we continue this some other time so it's been a pleasure always love love your work man yeah ABJ time over the Christmas break yeah yeah thank and yeah if want to reach out to me it's lan.com lan7 as in like the word seev n.c. and just schedule in a um an inquiry and we'll get back to you when we can get you on your way so perfect yeah so I'll I'll put that web link up for people in in the description are there any other social media links or anything else like that yeah so just the lean 7 on Instagram at the moment so we're quite new so we just uh opened up the market very recently and uh yeah really excited to be working uh alongside people that want to gain shape and um yeah I'm I'm excited to do some more work with you in the future man yeah perfect me too man so well thank you very much for coming on that that was I thought that was a great discussion it was great to hear good enjoyed it yeah thanks for your time Anthony take care guys thanks everyone thanks everyone for joining and uh we'll see you next time hey everyone if you need a little extra help getting started on a carnivore diet and my online resources that I have for free aren't enough for you you can go to www. now Toc carnivore docomond carnivore challenge where you'll have online Resources Group support weekly Zoom meetings as well as the ability to chat live with myself Simon Lewis and the others in the challenge who can help you and support you and give you extra advice and help you along the way so if that sounds like something that would be beneficial to you then please go to howc carnivore