"I Ate ONLY ONE Food And My Parkinson's REVERSED!" | Mimi Morgan

my Parkinson's medicine I would I'd wake up at 5:00 in the morning and I would take and lie in bed for 45 minutes before I'd even set a foot outside of the bed and my last pills that I would take that would hopefully help me sleep at night was at 10:00 was a long acting every 3 and a half to you know 4 hours and I was working at the time just absolutely consumed with it it's it's not a joyful Life to Live at all it's just unbelievable what I can um what I can do and how strong I've gotten I was pretty frail you I was muscle wasting and I have some really good muscles now and I walk a lot welcome to the plant-free MD podcast with Dr Anthony chaffy where we discuss diet and nutrition and how this affects health and chronic disease and show you how you can use this to optimize your health and happiness both mentally and physically h hell everyone thank you very much for joining me for another episode of the plant-free MD I'm your host Dr Anthony chaffy and today I have a very special guest Kim who is here joining us uh to give us her story and personal um adventures with uh cornivore diet uh thank you so much for coming on it's it's an absolute pleasure well thank you for having me yeah so for for people who don't know who you are can you tell us a little bit about yourself well um I can um uh how far do you want me to go back just a little bit my background what what have you feel you know I um I'm going to be 70 in September I grew up in northern New Jersey in the country and um you know had a nice childhood was pretty sick with asthma so that was limitin back then but I you know appreciated uh you know good food and we ate um nose to tail um you know milk delivered all that sort of thing so I had a good background in that and spent a lot of time outside so I have an appreciation um you know for spending um time in the outdoors um and uh was a eventually um discovered writing was an accomplish equestrian outgrew my asthma and then moved on to my uh 20s where I became a mother and was a stay-at-home mom for quite a few years very good and so you came to a cornivore diet um when when did you when did you come to that uh so that was 20,23 so last I I was a clean keto before but just carnivore you know so what 16 16 months now okay I decided to go further into that yeah and what made you want to to change your your diet in the first place and go to sort of a clean keto and then eventually to carnivore on that diet well um I uh let's say late 50s I started to get sick my body started to fail me I was uh plant-based I was vegan for about six years maybe 10 years prior but still heavily uh plant-based and um very little fat in my diet probably for my 20s on uh and and a limited amount of protein that I had in my diet and um my health failed I was um diagnosed with I had a number of Falls and a number of breaks and was soon after diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis two years after that was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and about two and a half years after that I had a stroke and following the stroke I was infected uh with the IV probably that I received when I was in the ambulance um with staff a and ultimately that ended up uh spreading to my spine I wasn't treated right um um and um was very sick had a not a great chance of surviving it it allowed to seed in my spine my spinal canal my muscles and uh um my health I mean I was really deteriorating at this point on 13 plus medications and little hope for really any any kind of a future other than the prospec of you know what what nursing home were they going to put me in because I really had trouble fun functioning and um about two about a year and a half um they you know they I was able to get rid of the Walker still had to use a cane was um not able to be really active I had an epiphany and soon after that um that led me to a a gentleman who was a um a former chiropractor and he uh started to um work with me to incre actually increased my fat to 50% I nearly fell off the chair and that became a progression and then um of me trying to heal myself uh and get off of U medication and try to get better and it's been about a three-year Journey um and I'm actually doing phenomenal great that's really good I mean all those things I mean there's a there are obviously very very very serious health issues the you know the MRSA is life-threatening uh especially if you get that in uh you your spine I mean that's that's a devastating illness um and then just Parkinson's on its own and rheumatory arthritis on its own these are things that are very debilitating um so I'm I'm really glad that that's that that's gotten better is that did you see that immediately improving or how long did it take um so they are a um it took probably a couple months you know I'll say um and people ask me this all the time the first month I I wasn't feeling worse and I had been feeling worse every month you know so I kind of was at a St about three months I started to feel better definitely the Ra was pretty soon uh those symptoms uh were relieved and it really was about nine months where um I started to increase my fat to 70 sometimes 80% um because I I found myself craving it and that's when I started to question my Parkinson's diagnosis and I definitely had um a pretty aggressive form of parkinsonism at one point uh about a year into it I uh the Parkinson diagnosis I was on 1,200 milligrams of of Carbidopa levodopa which is a huge amount that's every three and a half four hours um I'm taking pills from the moment I wake up uh but I started to question it uh also was the MSA multiple system atrophy suspect because I had a lot of autonomic symptoms uh that were unusual for early but I started to question my diagnosis as my symptoms alleviated so I do believe I was misdiagnosed but you know that um to me raises a lot of a lot of um and I had that diagnosis for six years and um it took another year after that um of healing on the keto uh and again real clean keto that I started to wean myself off of medication and I'll be off of uh Parkinson's medication which was the second to the last medication I got off this this past um two years this June so it took a while um and it took a while for me to to notice the symptoms improving and then starting to question the diagnosis yeah so do you think that you don't have par per se it was something else as a result of of your diet uh yes so I definitely um I don't well you know that's a good question because I don't know if anybody who's healed from it um if that's even possible I I definitely had um parkinsonism um and there are many forms of Parkinson I mean to the point where I had um cognitive issues um um and you know EX of function was failing all all that's been reversed I had Donia nighttime distonia I had parasom disturbances as related to park I had quite a few symptoms um uh that really impacted my life in a big way and and that all was eliminated so you know 20 to 30 I think because 25 to 30% of the people with Parkinson's um lose the diagnosis 5 to 10 years I probably didn't have it but um I definitely had the symptoms and was definitely failing with it and and and it's all been reversed because of my diet change you know a number of other things that I had to change with it too but certainly the first step was with the diet yeah fantastic and then was was there anything in particular that that made you want to switch from keto to full carnivore and um did you see much difference when you did um yeah so um you know my last medication I got off was antibiotics I've been on them for three and a half years I had a pretty severe case and and they believed that the um that the m encapsulated so that I'd have to be on antibiotics for life and intuitively I knew that was going to come back to haot me uh so I against doctor's orders I did get off of the medication I I took myself off um I had a lot of trouble with incurrent a recurrent infection C and just intuitively I thought you know I need to really streamline my diet even more eliminate all plants uh keep it really simple you know a few things which was beef eggs butter you know Tallow um uh and I just just intuitively as the listen in my body felt that I needed to do that to to further heal and try to build up my immune system which really took a big hit with everything that I had been through and it's paid off for me yeah and you're and you're pretty much medication free now is that right just off everything um I'm off of everything it'll be two years this June I'm off of all medications 13 13 plus and I was on some you know pretty heavy duty medications including biologics um you know the injectors I mean just a ton of them um and I'm off of them all that's amazing in fact all my all my doctors I I don't see any doctors anymore and I mean I had a team of doctors everything I think but um probably the a kidney doctor nefrologist I had just every every three months I was seeing a specialist and you know you have 10 doctors like that you just consume with seeing doctors and one medication and you know I haven't seen a doctor in a couple years yeah fantastic well I mean that's a huge and yeah it is and it's is at my age too which is you know you know we can still heal um as we're older absolutely and you know yeah I mean and and as we get older to people tend to get on more and more medications the body's just sort of having more and more problems and we're start of trying to put Bondo and duct tape on the things from chass allart and um but it's it's very refreshing to see that no you don't have to do this you don't have to be on tons of medications that that's not the normal thing and you know we we need to remember that that's not how humans used to live they didn't need all these medications um you know some people would have benefited from a lot of these sorts of things but by and large people if they weren't killed by something like an you know horrible plague or war or famine or something like that they tended to live actually quite a long time in good health at home they didn't have to go into nursing homes and uh and be enfeebled and people forget that you know they they forget that you know if you look at like Socrates I believe he was 76 and they had to kill him to get to shut him off you know because he was so sharp he was just terrorizing Athens with his intellect and they were like okay we we need we need to get rid of this guy and so he wasn't slowing down one wit and that was at 76 2500 years ago or so and so it's we forget that and there there wasn't anything in Plato's writing or anybody subsequently this saying oh he was the oldest man on Earth it was just amazing there's no mention of his age and how old he was and how crazy and decrepit nothing of that he was just a normal guy and he and he was in his 70s and he was had been a war hero and all these other sorts of things and I believe in the pelian war and that was a long war that was like 20 something years uh between Athens and Sparta so you know this was something that um was normal uh was just being healthy as you aged and we all age but we can be healthy as we age and that's something that we forget so it's great to see uh the example and especially coming from those extremes that you didn't just you haven't just been healthy your whole life and you're just a genetic freak you had some serious serious issues that you were on multiple medications for you made a switch now you're off all of them I think that's that speaks volumes yeah thank you yeah it does and um uh you know sadly we're um and I'm not sure when it changed but sadly we're really um sort of for lack of better word groomed to think that um uh that this is inevitable that aging uh in um by taking medication by not being fit by living with you know frity living with being sick is just normal I mean I can't tell you how many times that that really was told to me just accept the way you are you know you just can't move that's that's you know this is the way your back is you know the infection spread too far you're just going to have to live with it um you know of course you're on medications could this just happens at your age and and I don't believe I mean it certainly hasn't proved true for me I've reversed it I I wait I've been weight training for two years now um and uh and I I've I've turned it around and you don't have to live that way but sadly so many of my peers and and people that I know just are convinced well it's just aging arthritis is aging and you know I have ra and and osteoarthritis and and I'm absolutely painfree from it so we don't just have to accept it that that's just a natural part yeah absolutely and especially with rumor arthritis I mean that's something that just gets worse and worse and you know we we learn about this in medical school we look at the the serious deformities to the joints and the Damage that's ongoing and Progressive and yes there are a lot of drugs that can that are that are disease modifying the deards but they all these Biologicals and deards that that you were on and that can help suppress that but they they don't come without consequences serious consequences and they and or cost I mean they're very expensive also and but being able to just sort of stop that from progressing and just stop it from continuing is uh I mean that that obviously shows uh a cause and effect relationship you you've stopped doing something you started doing other things and then this disease process isn't going on anymore your body isn't attacking and tearing apart your joints that's a that's a clear sign that that's you know you you fixed the causation you've removed the cause and now you don't have the effect anymore hey everyone really happy to announce a new sponsor for the show for everybody down in Australia Stockman Stakes who are delivering highquality grass-fed and finished pasture raised beef and other meats flash frozen and 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better being off the medications yeah oh gosh yeah yeah it's yeah I mean I I was being I mean I you know I was being poisoned with them all I mean I look sickly I mean how can you not be on that many medications and not have some poisoning in your body yeah absolutely well yes and I mean that's what that's what a medicine is after all it's it's just a a poison that under certain circumstances causes more good than harms has has effects that are beneficial opposed to just harmful and then outside of those situations they're just harmful but they can be harmful and beneficial and that's the the you know the dreaded side effects uh which a doctor friend of mine said there aren't there's no such thing as side effects they're just effects and some of them you want and some of them you don't want but they just that's just what these drugs do this is how they affect your body and it's yeah it's not fun it's not being fun being on a lot of medications and I don't think a lot of doctors appreciate that probably until they get into that situation themselves and they start getting on more and more medications they start feeling more and more rotten it's very difficult for people to put themselves in someone else's shoes if uh if they don't see just how how awful it is to be on 50 different medications you have to take them every couple hours it's just all your whole life is controlled by the schedule of your medication and how many side effects you're getting and how how poorly you feel as a result of that right and it's uh it it um it just sort of sometimes you have to wonder if if the Cure is worse than the disease and sometimes it is and people just say look I'm just going to deal with it sometimes the disease actually is worse than that and that's pretty scary but um thankfully uh you we're able to start getting people off of all these medications which is I think what every doctor should strive to do yeah I mean absolutely my life was consumed with medications I I had an app and would have it programmed and just so because I had so many from um my Parkinson's medicine I would I'd wake up at 5:00 in the morning and I would take and lie in bed for 45 minutes before IID even set a foot outside of the bed and my last pills that I would take that would hopefully help me sleep at night was at 10 o'clock was a long acting um and so yeah I mean you just and every three and every three and a half to you know four hours and I was working at the time and just absolutely consuming with it it's it's not a joyful Life to Live um at all when you you just have that many things going on and and then when something else goes wrong which inevitably it does you know you're given another medication uh and the and the fact that you know with the Parkinson's medication uh you're discouraged from eating fat and protein uh and specifically since I was working it was in the day uh so I would would just have about four ounces of protein at night and um had a lot of trouble with nausea so would ended up eating a lot of graham crackers and bananas uh and Saltines which is what they said that would help with a nausea and so then you know I even became more Mal nourished during this uh period yeah probably and yeah well that's that's very scary so now sounds like you're back being very active you're talking about lifting weights what is what is your routine now what do you have you been able to get back to riding horses or what what are you able to do um to do well now I'm actually able to do um everything so um I was diagnosed with borderline osteopor osteoporosis two years ago and they wanted me to put on medication I said absolutely not you know I've work harded to get off at at all these I'm not going to so um uh I found a great trainer my you knew my my back was pretty bad and I I didn't want some young girl um that was going to just push me too hard and not be aware of my back it it's been a slow build so I have a great trainer uh she's 75 years old and uh I've been working with her privately we do three hours of uh weight training a week a private session and she's a hawk watching my form I've been able to it's just unbelievable what I can um what I can do and how strong I've gotten I was pretty frail you I was muscle wasting and I have some really good muscles now and I feel good and I walk a lot so um uh you know I'm I'm back up I've kind of had to try to find a balance because my immune system I still had some trouble with um uh a little bit last year recurring infections so I've had to give myself a rest day which I haven't liked but I'm back with a my walking um I'm starting to volunteer for a therapeutic center and eventually I'll get back riding again but my big thing I'm doing this is I had a um I've always wanted to do and I had given it given it up and that was walk the frenchway uh the St Francis of a cc pilgrimage which is 800 kilom 500 miles and I'm gearing up I was going to do it this fall but I've had to back off and wait on to next spring and I'm going to do uh it's I think I'm going to do the 40-day trk so that I have a rest day a couple extra rest days um but I'm going to do the 500 Mile uh walk it wow next year which is just I mean I I could I could barely walk a quarter a mile two years um after coming out of the hospital with the spinal infection my I mean just my back was just that bad and the pain was that bad so to be able to in three years time even contemplate doing something like that this pretty amazing at the really the ability of the human body to heal I still every day I'm absolutely fascinated and grateful um that that you know we can heal yeah yeah it is it is amazing um I'm I'm continually surprised uh at how much we can get back after people have been so sick and so hurt um now it's it's becoming more more sort of everyday for me now you I know what's going to happen with my patients they're able to stick to a certain diet you know I'm telling you like these sorts of things are going to get better these things are going to improve in these ways this is what your Bloods are going to look like and this is how they're going to change and when they stick with it which you know a lot of them a lot of them do because you know they're very motivated when they come in to to try to get better their bloods do change and they they their health changes in those in those ways and we see diseases that we just never thought would be able to actually cure uh we just being able to treat things like room toward our thrat well we just don't know what causes it just happens and Parkinson's it just happens and all these other sorts of things and there's nothing to do with it for it you just here take these drugs and that can help that can help m neate the issue and slowest progression maybe and um you know and and now we're curing these things or at least significantly improving them naturally and getting people off medications right is just is absolutely amazing and you know now now I sort of think of it in a different way I don't even think of these things as diseases I sort of think of in the same way as lead poisoning you know you have exposure to lead and you get lead poisoning and we didn't know that that was an exposure issue for hundreds of years we figured that out eventually and we said okay yeah no you can't have blad pipes that gets in the water something happens to it we get poisoned we have a specific thing uh and then it's the same idea you know we remove these exposures and then the body improves it gets better yes you can you can sort of get permanent damage you know from lead poison or all those sorts of things you get organ damage sort of things but a lot of the stuff goes away and the and the poison exposure and response to that poison goes away and I saw someone comment the other day that said well no you know this isn't you know this isn't curing diabetes because if you just if you start eating carbohydrates again then the diabetes comes back again it's like well right but if you start exposing yourself to lead again you'll get lead poisoning again so I guess you never Cur poisoning and yeah and and um yeah so it's it's uh it's great to see but now when I I think about it that way it's it's a sort of exposure relationship a toxin toxicity exposure or relationship just makes a lot more sense and it and it stands the reason that the body can heal yeah it it does and it um you know brings up a couple points one um you know we we get these labels of you know you've got this disease and then we kind of attached to it thinking it's ours um and so for me it was a mindset no this isn't mine I'm responding this this way and so I don't even consider myself having any of these illnesses anymore um and then the other thing is is um you know I I um I work at the senior center uh just a couple days a week which keeps me active I see a lot of people with um you know Parkinsons and I I look at them and I um and I see myself in my experience here I lived with these symptoms for six years you know behind um Alzheimer's it's the fastest growing neurological disease I just wonder you know how many people wouldn't won't even be faced with that if they had changed their diet beforehand um because I don't believe if I had had a uh I definitely was fat starved um if if my diet had been different if I had not uh worked myself into the ground stressed myself had kept active not um I G I gave it up when I was busy working you know I don't think I had would ended up where I did I I think that I would have um I would have avoided all of those illnesses um and uh so I just want you know wonder how many people by making the changes before it even happens would would head it off as well but yeah I I definitely don't claim ownership to any of these illnesses anymore I don't have any symptoms so how can I have it you know yeah well it you don't have lead poison anymore leads out of your system gone yeah yeah and yeah no I agree I think that you know if we're eating naturally and we're eating what we're supposed to have and and and avoiding things that are not meant for us biologically that 90% of the issues that we contend with now probably would be gone these non-communal chronic diseases that are just going up like you said uh you know Alzheimer is the fastest growing neurological disorder and and Parkinson's and others are are growing as well these things are growing they're getting more prevalent why would that be if they're just genetic it should just be stable and um and if say well you know we're just getting better screening we're getting better at diagnosing thing every year every single year we get better at diagnosing every decade I mean you could you could argue that to a simpleton uh back in the 80s when they first made that argument when I was a kid but why didn't they they figure why did they why were they still bad at it in the 90s why were they still not paying attention in the 2000s then the 2010s and now we're just finally figuring it out in the 2020s that and seeing all the people that have neurod degenerative Decline and have to go into a nursing home it's not a it's not a it's not a hard thing to miss you know someone doesn't remember their own husband or wife or children anymore that's not just oh gee I I just that's just that's just been dead just had no idea he had Alzheimer's of course they noticed that of course you see that and of course you know the rise in prevalence of people needing to go to nursing care facilities uh going up and up and up and up and up that's that's not just a diagnosis issue that's not just we're figuring this out that's a demand issue the demand is going up so this is not a genetic issue this is not something many people have a genetic predisposition and it but they have to have the environmental uh trigger as well you know the idea that genetics loads the gun and and the environment pulls the trigger you have to have both things set up in such a way and so yeah the best thing is do is to prevent these things one of the one of the things that um I think is is worth mentioning is that the same thing that's going to prevent a disease will quite often reverse the disease right because we're talking about cause and effect relationship you know if you don't smoke you're not going to get the damage from smoking so if you already been smoking good idea stop smoking and your body can start healing from that as well there is such a thing as damage done but I I've talked to more and more people now with empyema and COPD who are actually improving their symptoms quite dramatically requiring less oxygen because of uh of going carnivore great so you know some things like empyema is a good example of that that tissue is very very much permanently damaged and maybe you can make tissue that's still there work better but you're really not going to regrow your lungs that we know of and I think it unlikely but you can at least stop the problem and you can start healing what can be healed and and a lot of these other things don't have that permanent damage a lot of these other things can actually just stop the stop the problem you the rheumatory arthritis you know certain damage to your cartilage and to the bones not grow back but it's it's going to stop the progress and it's not going to make it any worse and it's going to help whatever damaged material you have there stay as stable as possible for as long as possible and so it's just a massive Improvement but yeah that's that's the whole idea of you know doing talks like this and doing this this podcast is that it hopefully going to get this out to a lot of people that can then go okay you know what I think I'm going going to I'm going to just pass on that whole lifetime of chronic disease and illness thing and I'll just I'll just me thank you and I never have to be sick in the first place that's my Hope anyway yeah I I I hope so I hope so too I mean I see a lot of people my age and the their AG is just absolutely deterior deteriorating and a lot of them with cognitive issues already and you know um I had was diagnosed with severe asthma at age2 I've been on as medicine every day of my life uh up until two years ago when I got rid of it you know and that's that's a long time having asthma and being on medication for it to now my age be off and I just keep an emergency when I get a Bronco infection I do sometimes have to go on my nebulizer but um not as much and I bounced back uh pretty quick and so yeah we definitely have um we definitely have the ability and you know to do that and we don't have to we don't have to suffer we don't have to live with this we can make make changes yeah I noticed my asthma went away as well I was diagnosed with asthma one month old and oh wow yeah so it wasn't it wasn't horrifically s um you know it was just sort of sort of sports induced um it just get sort of a bit tight but um later later on you know it sort of got a bit worse um and then I had to take a lot of inhalers and and things like that but uh then yeah sort of two weeks after just getting rid of the last of the greens so I was I was essentially on a ketogenic diet I wasn't I wasn't doing keto I was just not eating cars because I just noticed from my own experience that when I ate anything containing carbohydrates my my back would hurt a lot more I would I would be in more pain and it was just like nope don't want that and so I just gravitated away from these sorts of things and was like oh that's weird and so I was just eating veggies and lean meat and then I just went full fat meat and stopped all the veggies and ate a lot more meat and two weeks asthma was gone my eyes were my eyes were always like bloodshot I always thought it was just allergies it was the damn vegetables and I stopped eating these things yeah they went away yeah no that's the way I felt I mean I just was like I feel really good I'm like basically zero carbs I was trying doing making my own kimchi trying that you know for my gut with antibiotics and you know honestly I I just do better just with the the meat I was doing eggs but you know I find I do better without the eggs I just you know um uh some about a month or so now not doing eggs again and it just works just to have beef and and bone broth yeah you know so why why add something um why why add anything else when I feel good this way yeah well I've definitely noticed that with my autoimmune patients and then just people I talk to that they they always do the best on just red meat and water and even eggs especially Dairy but other other sorts of meats pork chicken fish that can all uh be a bit problematic for autoimmune issues so that's interesting yeah yeah at the same same for me occasionally I might have a little piece of pork um but again I just do better with uh with beef from um a regenerative Farm I do get good beef I do think it's important to to get the good stuff um and uh and I get the butter that I use from a farm too I get raw butter yeah nice and um yeah and um and I just do better so just I mean I just don't see the point in mixing adding it why add something else and and not feel better yeah I I would love to try raw butter it's uh it's a criminal offense here in Australia to oh my gosh yeah yeah raw raw not having and yeah so isn't that sad yeah yeah yeah well I think my raw butter says for a cats and dogs only oh right okay yeah yeah I mean but um and actually interesting enough raw butter smells like cheese a dairy doesn't work for me I love Dairy I love cheese but the raw butter smells like cheese so I kind of get my Dairy fixed just by using that yeah smells like cheddar actually yeah interesting yeah it is I got I gotta get my hands on some of those um yeah the you can you can sort of get raw milk in some places around here but they they said it's like it's bath milk it's marketed as bath milk you you all the the Cleopatra wannabes you know just bathing in milk you know yeah yeah this just the new trend on Tik Tok milk baths is it really okay no I'm joking about that I was just saying about okay well it doesn't surpris me if it would yeah well I was I was sort of making a joke because it's like who are they fooling you know like no you're you're buying a liter of of raw milk for a bath I mean how many of those how many of those are you going to need to to fill up the though yeah well raw milk says the same thing interesting enough it doesn't for goat milk so I do have a local goat farmer um and it doesn't have a label on it for capture dogs only for raw goat milk oh okay uh unfortunately that doesn't work for me either but um yeah yeah I find it I grew up on raw milk I I grew up in the country where the Milkman would deliver it in glass bottles I just wrote about that on Twitter it's I mean it's just kind of absurd that you know we grew up having that and now all of a sudden you know we can't the Milkman can't Del not all of a sudden it's been for years but it's pretty crazy how we can't get our hands on that yeah well it's a good it's good 15,000 years that we've been uh you know cultivating Dairy something around there yeah raw Dair right it's been I don't know 50 plus years of uh of uh the ban on that so yeah I don't I don't uh yeah I don't I don't I don't know if that actually really made as big of a of a impact in favor of Health that uh the legislators might think yeah quite quite the opposite you know I think so yeah so is that is that pretty much your diet now is just really just red meat and water uh yes and and bone broth I do and I'll have the marrow from yeah I have the marrow from the bones yeah nice that's yeah that's B basically it I will you know I live on the water I'm in Charleston South Carolina and I'm on the water if I can get fresh wild Seafood um you know oysters and and salmon if it's wild uh I will have some fish yeah and I do well with that I don't get farmed I do that you know certainly when I um if I travel visit in the holidays I'm I'm I'm break a ruler or so but it's sort of a healthy rule um and it's not for very long and and most of the time actually if I try something else it really isn't all that you know I'm really eager to go back to what works for me um but that that is a um basically I don't think I'll go back to eggs at least I think for a couple more months I've done well without it you know I'd like to uh it's just another Avenue of protein but um yeah it's just it's benefited me and it's benefited me really you know with Keto I had some vegetables still and some salads and just the switch to the carnivore has been has been great occasionally I might use a you know fresh Rosemary doing a steak or something but um I just keeping it simple and and just focusing on the nutrients is a good formula yeah yeah definitely and and you know and when you get used to cooking these things that's what you cook all the time they you get very good at cooking them so oh you get bored of it never once it's it's always absolutely fantastic so um no yeah yeah I I don't either and actually you know I've gotten really good at brazing meat I I've do great uh beef Shanks brazing I'll go up against anybody's steak with my bra Shanks nice and short ribs you know I've really got it damn but no so I I fix um I fix my meat all different ways I don't eat steak every day um I just usually once a week we'll have a RI eye and a strip steak um I do a lot of brazing uh with bone broth and butter and and um you know there's so many so many ways I have a smoker uh and I'll I'll smoke my meat some of that and then maybe finish it in the heaven it's just I'm never bored and you know once you start it and you experiment with your cooking I mean I just don't see how you can be bored yeah do you have like like a big meat fridge like I do where it's just just racks of meat in there or meat yes I do I I saw yours I saw yours so um yes I do my I have two shells designated from that always have a chuck roast in I like our own shoulder roast um I've got be beef Shanks in right now um and I have glass jars with my bone broth um but yes my two shelves with that and then I do drink Sparkling Water and I have a Shelf with that and then a Shelf with my butter sitting out uh in addition I get two pound blocks of the butter you really need to find it it's it's great I have the two pound rolls where it's hand rolled nice and that's yeah that's I mean that's my refrigerator yeah and I love it that sounds I open it up and I I see good nutrient-rich food and I'm just I'm excited I'm so grateful I really was in such rough shape um that I'm just so grateful so I open up my uh my refrigerator and I just think you know I'm I'm just going to keep soaring eating this way that's great yeah I I remember remember when I was a kid opening the refrigerator my entire adolescence and and then into adulthood you go when I go back to my parents house you'd open the refrigerator and it was absolutely St with things and you couldn't find anything to eat you're like okay I'm starving where's the food you're looking there's nothing but presumably food in there but there's nothing to eat there's nothing to eat there's cilantro there's parsley C there's this there's I'm like what the hell do I eat there's no food here there's just ingredients and that's what we kept right you're you're right yeah I kept saying my mom like there's no food here there's just ingredients and then like where's the food and I you know just thinking back I remember every now and then I'd find under this and under that packet of produce and rotting lettuce and this I'd find like a little stuff thing of like sirlo steaks on there I'm like oh thank God I found some food and it was it wasn't like I'm I'm going to do carnivore I'm only looking for meat just nothing registered as food until I found some hidden stash of of beef or something like that and yeah and it was always so stressful like looking at that refrigerator because you're just constantly looking what the hell is there to eat and it was nothing ever there eventually find some meat maybe and now my refrigerator just shelves stacked up with you know a you know aging steaks on drying racks and aging like wet aging meat and all these sorts of things it's just that I I just get happy every time I open my refrigerator I'm like this is just the best looking thing ever you know it's just it's just food is just awesome and and it's amazing I get happy every time yeah it is and you know you're going to be satiated you know you're going to be nourished you know you open it up and it's food and yeah and I I find I still I crave it every day I mean it really is when you clean out everything else out of your diet um you know that doesn't really do it um I ultimately I don't think it does it for for most of us um you know your body just actually just craves those few simple ingredients in the meat it really does and yeah but you got to clear out everything else in order for that to happen yeah yeah definitely I don't crave a Sal I don't CRA I literally don't crave a salad I don't think I want a salad no it's I want beef yeah yeah I definitely don't want a salad that's the last thing I want I couldn't imagine that I mean I didn't like salad to begin with I I ate them out of sufferance but um definely want them um so that that that ra interesting question is your is your how's your family uh and how are your friends reacting to this you know does your uh does your family uh follow you in this or what do they they think of this um well at first they were really supportive they were so glad I was getting well they didn't care what I did um it was really painful them to see me just fail so they were grateful once I got really well it was kind of like okay don't you think you're overdoing it I'm like no that made me that made me well I'm not going to go back to what made me sick yeah um and now they're like okay um she's just that way you know so if I visit and they say well what what can we get for you I'm like give me five 10 pounds of beef and now they just get it for me um and they don't argue um the funny thing is is you know some of them are starting to have um as three daughters they're in their 40s and I've got one that's starting to have um very interesting some of the things that I dealt with the B12 deficiency the folic acid deficiency the iron deficiency and um so she's been going to a doctor and I just want to kind of cringe about it but I'm I'm like this doctor because the doctor told her um and she's a my daughter's Lan and walks a lot but the doctor said I want you to eat beef a couple times a week and start lifting weights so so now now they're starting to fall a little bit more suit with me um my friends think I've just lost my mind you know they take diabet they take diabetes medication you know um uh you know they they do this and you know if we they eat sugar and candy and and they just think I've just totally lost my like why do I want a weight train three hours of weight weak and lift heavy weights um why you know I run up I run up these I run up and down steep stairs until I can't run with a kettle bell um and I do that because I I I uh I had to leave the place I lived in because it had 27 steps and they said you'll never walk up 27 steps and um and that was just crushing so now just because they said I couldn't do that I run up and downstairs with a kettle bell until I can't run anymore uh and I do it outside too and there's steep stairs but um and they think I'm nuts for doing that they think I'm nuts for eating beef and they think I'm definitely going to and it's funny because I'm healthy I'm fit um and they're like where's your fiber you you need fruits and vegetables you're going to get sick you it's like it you know they they just don't want to hear it yeah but you you were sick that was the whole point I know know I know and and and they knew me when I was sick yeah and it's it's like how can you not how can you not re I just don't understand honestly how they can't register I was sick I'm now well this is what I did to get well um they they just can't connect it and you know I don't know if it's because then maybe they'd have to look at themselves maybe they don't want to you know I've had people say I have the worst arthritis and I said oh I used to have terrible really what do you do and I tell them and they say oh I absolutely couldn't go without my carbs yeah hey guys just want to take a second to thank our sponsor carnivore bar I don't promote many products because honestly all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat for those times that you're out hiking road tripping or stuck at work and you want nutritious snack that is just meat fat and salt if you want it the carnivore bar is a great option so I like this product not because it's just your meat but also because I want the 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you're trying just trying to you know ruin my life and stop things that I'm doing and uh you know and and you know maybe they they die maybe they don't early on but you know they're breaking down their body and they're certainly going to die younger going to have a lot more illnesses going on and that's um but that's worth it to them they don't they don't care maybe they don't realize how much it's going to hurt them they just whatever and then they're then they're there and they're damaged and they're broken they tell people please don't make my mistake this was awful uh and then then then you know the younger people are saying ah you're just saying that but I like this I like this feeling that these drugs give me I like partying that's what I enjoy and uh so I'm willing to to take a bit of a hit on my health and that's exactly what we're saying with food as well people are saying well I can't give up my carbs okay but this is going to reverse your diabetes it's carbs or diabetes that's that's those are the options and oh I couldn't give up my carbs and I wouldn't want to do that I wouldn't want to do that and I was like oh you're just gonna not have any enjoyment in your life enjoying your food and that's the same exact argument that the the drug addicts have it's that you want some you're using that food as an enjoyment as entertainment and not as nutrition and you're saying yeah I'm willing to I'm willing to damage my body in a certain way because I don't really think it's all that bad and uh but either way it's worth it or a dessert you know something they know is not good for them you know they're saying well I'm willing to do that because I want I want that flavor I want that experience I want that enjoyment we use food as as entertainment now which is is wild to me um I saw one guy saying like oh why would you do that you're not going to have any any fun in your life you're not eating you know pizza or cake or this that and the other that just sounds boring as hell and you know I just pointed out to him I just said you know if you get your if you know the highlight of your day is eating pizza and cake then your life is boring as hell you know right exactly I mean that's if that's that's the best you've got like I'm sorry but your life sucks and you know you need to you need to sort of get yourself together um I eat for fuel I enjoy every steak I've ever eaten in my life and I love to try your ribs and your bra Shanks but like you know all these things are amazing you know they're going to be they're going to be uh very enjoyable to eat but that's not why I eat them right I eat them so that I can be healthy and then I can do other things and I eat generally once a day and I've got 23 hours you know give or take some sleep that that I'm actually doing things and so I actually enjoy my life I'll go out and do things that are entertaining have interesting conversations go exercise go out to you know different sort of Park like today we're at like the bounce place it's like this giant Warehouse full of just trampolines like where was this when I was a kid i' I've bized about a place like this when I was a kid and now I'm you know middle-aged man like jumping around like a child but you know what it was amazing and I'm like I was out there having fun you know with everybody and and that's what you do you know you just enjoy your life but um I I came across a uh case series out of C Medical Center and it was a series on uh cancer patients who use ketogenic metabolic therapy to treat their cancer basically like a fourth line treatment that had multiple reections or maybe things were inoperable that Chone radi and you know just cancer kept coming back kept coming back and so they said okay well you could try as ketogenic metabolic therapies is basically cut out all carbohydrates and you just eat fatty meat and some veggies if you want and keep your blood sugar down your ketones up and see how you go so some of these people had well actually the majority of them had G blastoma which is a the most aggressive and unfortunately the most common form of primary brain tumor brain cancer and malignant brain tumor and so very aggressive very very um short average life expectancy it's deemed terminal you have a terminal disease as soon as you have that diagnosis it's not considered something that can be cured at all and so it says you get this you're going to die it's only a matter of when and it's probably not that that long from now and so they've been fighting these things they go on uh keto and all of a sudden it's able disease they start actually recovering neurologically one guy is able to read again he's able to go dancing he's able to have a life again he's able to you know go back to work whereas before he was near an invalid and one gentleman uh and then tumors are shrinking and they're going away instead of just growing ceaselessly like some sort of marching Unstoppable Army and one of the gentlemen had been a former vegan vegetarian and said okay I'll try this um did it for over a year like two years something like that and and the tumor was receding and he was one of these that had a very significant neurological recovery and the tumor was shrinking on MRI just by changing his diet he was not on any more medications or surgeries just the diet did more than all his chemo radiation and surgeries had done and actually shrank this thing down probably may have done that you know before they cut out large portions of his brain but you know it uh you know you can't can't go backwards but the the problem with this person was is that at a certain point after a couple years he's doing so much better he's feeling good he said you know what I just don't like this lifestyle I want to go back to my my previous lifestyle and be with my vegan friends and and do vegan things and um and so that was that choice it was just like well I couldn't give up my car he did give up his carbs for a while but then he went back to them he said oh going to do that and he died uh very shortly afterwards he died you know several months later so you know his the cancer just immediately came back became aggressive and and he passed away and uh you know the only I think it was two people in that case series out of 15 that uh were had died by the time that was published only two ones that had come off the diet everyone else had everyone else had stayed on it were there for years and with stable no progression or or remission and you know that's the thing it's just like that's what I think of every time so oh I can't give up my carbs it's like really what if your life depended on it because it it it it does actually yeah that's an interesting mindset that he would go back to something that um I mean he's getting better so to not hold on to that and stay with that that and then you go back that's a mindset I really can't wrap my head around um because when you when you do that when you get uh at least for me getting better I did what what you say is is I started to look at Food differently I started to look at food as fuel and started to look at food as nutrient and again I get pleasure from what I eat I love to cook I'm a good one but it's not entertainment it's not um and I I would look at a pizza that that's not that's not going to help me in any way that's not nutrient so I'm not going to eat it and you know now every decision I make is is this going to benefit my health um and so to come from something where you know you you know your outlook I mean where you know your um your chances of surviving is is not good and having that reverse um that's really hard for me to grasp somebody giving that up for you know ve I mean vegetable and I happen to like Taste of vegetables you know I do but to give that up for vegetables it's just um really hard for me to wrap my head around yeah well and and you know if I if I can't have vegetables I I don't want to if I can't live without vegetables I as I was literally saying he can't live without vegetables and I just so he's like and I'm willing to not live if he doesn't have right yeah a shame it is very is very sad and you know maybe just didn't realize how big of an impact um you know the diet had and I just thought well maybe maybe I'm okay and then just unfortunately got worse it is very sad though to see people make that decision or or not or not have that foresight and right and insight to sort of think like okay you know this this is this is actually a very very serious thing that I'm dealing with it's not just a dietary choice it's not oh you're just being too restrict oh you're being orthorexic you're trying to do everything healthy why would you not want to be healthy why I mean that what is the alternative to that you know you want to you want to try to be a little unhealthy it's not it's not healthy to be healthy it's like what what exactly is that about you know we're telling people we're giving people a hard time because they they're concerned about their health and and they don't want to eat things that are harmful to them well that's a that's an eating disorder well maybe compared to the average person who's just who is just a a you know slovenly example of humanity but you know trying to eat in a healthy manner is what everyone should be striving to do uh really if they want to be healthy I mean you don't eat healthy be healthy yeah and you know then then it makes the question so what what can't be reversed with diet you know yeah I mean because I'm seeing a whole lot I'm seeing yeah I'm seeing a whole lot of things um yeah and you know if you can you know nuro can be really hard to reverse and if you can reverse neuro uh you can if you can stop if you can reverse I mean what what can't really be reversed and prevented from from nutrient-rich food yeah not much you know not not much at all um a a good 9092 % of the day-to-day issues that you know do patient comes into the doctor and you deal with those sorts of things are these non-communicable chronic diseases and those are the things that are just only rising in prevalence and they almost didn't exist 100 years ago or certainly 150 years ago they don't exist at all in uh in the more primitive uh cultures that are really still eating an ancestrally ad appropriate diet like like the Inuit eating just you know fatty meat if they're only eating fatty meat and not smoking the a Inuit populations communities they uh quite often will start smoking at an average of 8 years old so you know W and things like that you know yeah so it's hard to sort of say that about you know current sort of uh cultures but you know certainly in hundreds of years of colonization you know we had the diseases of the West and and uh that was distinct from the the other populations that were not Western culture that just didn't get these diseases and we just called these dis diseases of the West and um and then when the native peoples in America and Australia and elsewhere started eating the food of the West started getting the diseases of the West and now we just call it getting older and now we're just saying oh yes well diabetes was always there we just didn't see it you know Alzheimer's yes the first uh mention of this is in 1906 at a conference as a one-off as a one-off case report but probably happening all the time they were just too stupid to to understand what was in front of them uh which is just that's just lazy thinking really and and of course untrue but you know all of those non-communicable chronic diseases that are just going up and up and up I think that every single one of those is at least preventable if not reversible by just eating a proper diet they certainly don't need to happen in the first place the large majority of them and so I think that you know medicine for most of uh of the history of Western medicine you know you're dealing with very specific things like accidents and injuries uh pregnancy and child birth congenital and genetic defects and issues and um infectious disease and um poisoning malnutrition those sorts of things and uh and those that that's pretty much it you know and even the infections you know that that actually really started coming into prominence uh post- agriculturally in the post-agricultural populations we start seeing signs of poor wound healing signs of infection Dental cavities infections poor development and uh like signs of tuberculosis in the spines and the skeletons of of people after immediately after agriculture there wasn't hundreds of years it was just right there right there in the in the fossil record and you don't see that before you know so even infectious disease really much of that and I think that poisoning and malnutrition side of things it's just we're eating the wrong thing we're getting sick from that from not getting enough of what we're supposed to have and getting too much of things we're not supposed to have uh genetic congenital certainly a lot of congenital issues would be sorted out genetics I think a lot of those would be covered over because again you need to genetics pull loads the gun environment pulls the trigger so you may have the genes for it but it's not going to manifest because you're not you're not doing that to yourself um the other one's really just injuries right yeah just accidents and injuries and you know pregnancy and and deliveries you know and um childhood infections things like that getting eaten by things those sorts of things I think that's it pretty simple you know just like other animals in the wild they don't need vets you know they tend to not get horribly sick nasty infections all these sorts of things sometimes they do um they tend to not have all the different sorts of problems and would need medicine and blood pressure and obesity you know it's uh they're they're pretty healthy the natural state of all life is that of health and animals insects even trees and bushes you know I mean that's just life is supposed to be healthy if you had a species that were just sick and weak you know this is the survival of the fittest not the survival of the we so you know they' be long gone and so anything alive is descended from the winners and so you know we shouldn't we shouldn't be sick if we're being sick it's because it's something we're doing to ourselves or our environment it's not because we're just made that way and a a quote that I really like from well attributed to hypocrates obviously is the you know let food be thy medicine and Med medicine thy food that's something that people just don't pay enough attention to but man that was hit the nail right on the head and um but another another quote that's attributed to hypocrates which I really like is he said before you try to heal someone first ask them if they are willing to give up that which makes them sick that which is making them sick and that's it you know are you willing to give up carbs are you willing to give up veggie because that is what's making sick and for some people unfortunately that's that's no yeah yeah and it's interesting point we just said about the animals um you know because the the ones that are out you know in the elements are getting Sun they're getting fresh air they're accomm to the you know to the different weather I get a lot of sun I spend time Outdoors every day I get my morning sun um I've introduced cold swims I go to the ocean without a wet suit and I swim now you know it doesn't get much below 50 degrees here but I do it and you should see the looks people think I'm like they walk away and I do that I go watch the sunrise and I swim to this the sun coming up and nice you know it's just been really good getting you know um uh just you know Back To Nature has just been a really good part of of my healing and spending more and more time outside and I try to do that every single day yeah well that's amazing instead being you know keeped up inside yeah yeah well definitely and you definitely feel better just sort of getting out and being active as well and I yeah I love being out in the sun I I get very I get very an anxious when I'm in the just constant rain all the time it's like come on you know just I just want to be warm I like snow I can deal with snow because at least it's it's dry and I just I can't stand being just freezing cold and wet I just had too many too many wet freezing rain rugby games and practices that I'm just I'm just over I've done I've met my quota like I'm just I'm I'm can't do it anymore so that's it yeah but yeah well thank you so much for that I really appreciate that you have an absolutely wonderful story and it's very inspiring I hope other people uh seeing this can if they're suffering from these sorts of issues and and please let me know in the comments if you are if they're dealing with this you know seeing seeing how you have been able to overcome these things and uh and and get better and get off your medications and not only just at least be off the medications but uh completely Revitalize your health and get back to being extremely active running upstairs with kettle bells and and horrifying your neighbors and all your friends and things like that with what you're doing um hopefully that that I'm sure it will give a lot of people a of Hope and inspiration so thank you very much for sharing your story oh well thank you for having me I appreciate it you're very welcome um for if uh do you have social media and other sorts of things where people can follow you and and find out more if they're interested yeah I sure do so I'm on Twitter every day I'm I'm working on getting on Instagram uh and um uh you can find me at Mimi m m i k Morgan perfect and I'm the same same name for both yes okay perfect well I will put those links in the description and people can can find you there Mimi thank you so much I really appreciate it it's been a pleasure no thank you very 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