Carnivore, Censorship & Control: The Politics of Food with Ben Wehrman | Ben Wehrman

People [Music] like you really inspired me, man. You you you've been putting your work out there. You've been so just motivational on that end. Just really working hard and getting stuff out to your ability and knowing how your brain works and how your skill set can come into this thing and really help progress people toward better health. And I that's something I really talk about with people is it's easy to listen to someone like Dr. Chaffy or Ken Barry who really understand the human body super well in these systems. And so it can be easy to think, oh, I'm just going to, you know, leave it to those guys to do the content and, you know, kind of sit back on the sidelines. I think that everyone out there can play a part in this. This is such an important cause that we're behind right now. We've found a huge key to so many people getting better and it's going to take everyone. Even if that just means starting your own YouTube channel or an Instagram page where you just post pictures of steak, you know that that makes a difference. We're we're pushing the messaging out there. Even just celebrating the fact that you're eating meat is crazy enough a rebellious move these days. So don't discount it. Keep doing it. everyone can find a place where they can play a part and just understanding your own skill set, what you love to do and what you're good at and just jumping right in and and talk to people like Dr. Jaffy. Tag him on Instagram. He's he's really good about that and sharing people and I know all the other carnivores are super helpful as well. So, just get in the game, baby. That's all I got to say. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. And yeah, the more voices out there, the more people talking about it, you know, the more uh the more noise there is, the more people are aware of it, you know, you're going to be uh very influential to people that you don't even realize. Um I thought that I sort of was a bit late getting into the game and people were saying the things that I, you know, I I thought needed to be said and so I was just like, is it really, you know, is it really worth my coming in? But, you know, there was a couple things I thought, well, maybe I can sort of bring this, you know, um in my own way. might be a good good addition, but I wasn't I wasn't really sure. And then it um you know, people started saying that they come across things, but the way I said it was really helpful and that it made sense to them. And you know, somebody else is going to is going to listen to what I saying like, "Oh, I don't know. That doesn't make sense." But they're going to hear somebody else say very something very similar, but they're going to say it in a way from a from a direction in a context that makes sense to those people. And so I've always been really um hopeful that more and more people will come out, make channels. I encourage everybody to get their story out there and and start making content because you're going to influence people and um and and say things in a way that is going to make sense to certain people and it's not going to make sense uh when other people say it. So uh you know do get out there, you know, and and say something. you know, you just have a whole bunch of people out there talking about it about how great it is and about how much of a difference it made in your life. You know, people are going to have to stop um you know, stop trying to pretend it's not a thing, you know, because it is, you know, and it works and uh it works really well and it's really helping a lot of people. So, you know, get your word out there, get your message out there and let people know just how much it's helped you. Yeah. And there are a couple things you said there that are so critical that I want to highlight. The first one is just how different voices resonate with different people. That's one of the things I really learned as I was going through this content. Uh just that there there's such a spectrum of different styles and deliveries and we need to take this into account when we're introducing this to people because this is a very new concept for everyone out there, pretty much everyone. And so you need to figure out if you're trying to help this person heal and become their healthiest self, and you want to get them into carnivore the best way you can. It's it's going to take a little bit of mix and match skills. You got to kind of know their personality, know what they're looking for. And for me personally, I I like it hard and straight. Just give me the facts. That's why I loved your podcast and why I like Bart K. Ken Barry's good. Um, I actually don't love it when people are soft and sort of wishy-washy like, "Oh, like meat's good." You know, do what works best for you. I'm kind of done with that, to be honest. I just want the hard facts, man. Yeah. And but some people do like it a little bit soft and a little more warm and cuddly. And, you know, there's there's plenty of that on the site, too. and just looking through the immense amount of carnivore doctors and there is a a section on the site of just doctor testimonials because I know people like my family are really looking for that authority. You know, they're they grew up the older generations grew up really trusting authority figures in these the letters at the end of the name. So, there's a whole section for just doctors saying it. And so, you can go through that, see which ones you think would fit best for the the people you're targeting. And uh yeah, make it happen. Get more carnivores going. Help the world heal everyone. Definitely. Well, cool, man. Um well, hopefully people go check that out and uh take a look. It's it's really cool. Massive massive platform. A lot of resources there. So, it's a good place to send somebody and say, "Hey, there you go. Get going." Um and uh so yeah, so uh apart from that, you know, you got into this from Bitcoin, which is something that I've seen a lot actually. I've heard a lot of people, you know, come to this from Bitcoin or people from this go, you know, start thinking about Bitcoin. It's not something I've looked into much myself apart from, you know, understanding it, you know, core concept and um uh and uh you know, you sort of decentralized getting away from, you know, these different sort of governments and uh and their control over the monetary system, which is I think is probably a good thing. you know, was it one of the I don't know which Rothschild, but it was like 100 plus years ago or something like that. He said, I you know, you know, you give me control of the monetary system and I care not who runs the country, you know, it's just like y because he's he's running the country, you know, and he's he's just making money off everybody. So, uh so don't do that. Don't let uh don't let people like that be in charge of the monetary system. And um so having something something decentralized made sense to me, but it's not something I've looked into or invested in, you know, really myself. But um uh but you know, it's it's these sort of interesting concepts I think are very interrelated. Once you get the wool pull pulled off your eyes about something and you spot the the with how we've been lied to about uh you know food and and this sort of stuff and how cholesterol and heart disease and all these other sorts of things and has killed you know hundreds of millions of people early as a result probably billions at this point and caused untold amounts of of disease and harm. And you start seeing that and how readily people are uh willing to lie about something that could kill and hurt so many people in such horrific ways. Like you you just start looking, okay, well, what else are they lying about? Because they they couldn't have just started with that, you know, that's such a big one. It's gone on for so many decades and it's harmed so many people and they know it's harming these people and they clearly don't care. What else don't they care about? And so I see a lot of people from all these different sorts of avenues that have sort of said like, you know, spot the in and whatever field and then start looking around and, you know, find each other. So you know, you know, tell me a bit about uh about Bitcoin and why you think that's uh the way to go. Oh, I'd love to. Hey everyone, really happy to announce a new sponsor for the show and for everybody down in Australia. Stockman Steaks, who are delivering high quality grass-fed and finished, pasture-raised beef and other meats, flash frozen, and vacuum sealed to your door. Something I've been enjoying a lot of myself recently as well. They also have a great range of specialty items such as highfat keto mints and carnivore beef and organs mints with liver, kidneys, and beef heart as well. So, use code chaffy today for a free order of beef mints or another specialty gift along with your order at stockmanstakess.com.au and I'll see you over there. Thanks, guys. I know people out here are ready for this. They've been they've been warmed up for a long time to look for more lies are being fed to them and that's why I'm so excited to bring these worlds together. I would start with just saying anyone out there who's read The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Tyolds, I know you and I have both had her on our podcasts. Um, this book is basically walking through how every single step of the way that the government has put this huge nonsensical big farmer ruled system in place and really oified it through their power and the the three-letter agencies that have all been corrupted and they all have infinite power. This is key. Every single one of these governmental arms have infinite power and money because of the Federal Reserve money printer just showering money whenever they want it. They can print money at will. And this is the big key is the money printer is the death star of this evil empire here. Because when you rewind way back before the Federal Reserve was enacted in 1913, when we were on the gold standard for 5,000 plus years and things were a lot different when we had this form of money that could not be printed, it actually gained value over time. How crazy is that? When you got a gold coin as a little kid, you grew up and when you pass it down to your kids later in life, it's worth more. It was deflationary. That's important. this and the reason why it did that is because it had a relatively fixed supply. It was really hard to make more of it. It took a lot of work to mine it and as the supply grew very slowly, human productivity and efficiency increased very rapidly. So when you have that dynamic, the money actually gains value. And compare that to now, Federal Reserve created 1913. In 1971, we completely detached from the gold standard. We they Richard Nixon comes on and basically says, "Oh, we're we're just going to use a dollar now. Tough luck." Like if if you don't use this, then we'll we'll throw you in a cage. And if you Oh, gold's illegal now. Yeah. There there was a the 6102 was enacted. I forget what year it was around the the 20s or 30s, I think, where they literally made it illegal to be holding gold. They they came to your house and would take it away from you because that gave you uh a way out of their fiat games. that this word fiat is the word you hear in the Bitcoin circle just talking about this money printer system. So essentially Bitcoin is the digital version of gold. It's replicating all the things that were great about gold that worked really well. It's scarce. There's a fixed supply on it. It's really hard to increase the the amount of Bitcoin in supply, but once it gets to 21 million, it's done. That's going to happen around 2140. There's going to be a hard stop there. So it's very uh little inflation temporarily and then it turns deflationary once we hit that ceiling. And so but already it the fact that this is coming out now at such a perfect time when you look at it on a long enough time frame in the last you know 15 years or however long it's been out exactly. It's just been going up. It you know and people get caught up in the headlines of oh it's it went up this week it went down this week. It went up this week it went down this week. I just don't even care about that anymore. And most of the real Bitcoiners don't care about that anymore. It's just noise. We're thinking about this on a long time frame of this is a new form of money. This is a new global reserve currency. This is going to take, you know, this is like a hundreds of year project, thousands of years. This is this is made to be money for the digital future, which is like gold lasted for 5,000 years. This one could last for 10,000 years, you know. And it's fixing that problem of the government having complete power over the money. And I've had a lot of people on my podcast to talk about this and including some uh farmers and ranchers talking about how Bitcoin has helped these meat producers save their wealth somewhere where it can't be confiscated. It can't be taken away from, you know, if the bureaucracy comes down and raids their farm like we've been seeing happening more often, they can't take your Bitcoin. It's fully anonymous. You can have a secret wall and not tell anyone. You can just have your own. And there's examples of this all over the world as well. When people are escaping these awful authoritarian regimes in these third world countries, they're learning about Bitcoin. And for so many years, when these people would try to escape these terrible situations, they would get shaken down at the border. They get robbed of all their money. They get everything stolen from them. But with Bitcoin, if you can remember 12 words in your head, that's all you need to get access to that Bitcoin from anywhere. So, it really opens up these fascinating possibilities of sovereignty and self- sovereignty. And it's uh really fascinating rabbit hole to go down. That's why I created the ybitcoinonly.com because that's I I tell every carnivore that's the next rabbit hole to check out if you haven't. Um, it effectively the the long-term vision just like carnivore's vision is to heal people with a proper human diet. The Bitcoin vision is to separate money from state. The government should not have the ability to print infinite money for itself and steal from all of you from inflation. You know, carnivores that are trying to buy ribeye can see the inflation going on. It's getting crazy out there. It's getting more and more expensive. And it's not getting more expensive because ribeye is getting more valuable. It's getting more expensive because your dollar is losing its purchasing power. They're deflating it away by printing the money. It's quite simple. When the money supply goes up, it dilutes everyone else's fiat currency. So, you're getting poorer every time you see these politicians on TV say, "Oh, we're printing a trillion for that. We're printing a trillion for that." That's you getting poorer. They just don't say it that way. It's a stealth tax. It's a way that they tax you without any legislation needed. It's it's a great way for them to get infinite money to just print tanks and aircraft carriers for all the wars they want to do. Pay all the lobbyists off. Continue these corrupt three-letter agencies that are keeping us sick and in bed with big food and big pharma. This whole game all comes back to the money. And when you fix that money, you fix the whole problem of all these cascading effects of power and corruption creating this clown world we find ourselves in today, including the diet guidelines that has been made possible by fiat money. Yeah. So, um, yeah, I' I've always, you know, having, you know, read Soul and Milton Friedman Freeman and Friedrich Hayek and and these sorts of Walter Williams, these sorts of people. also, you know, having having a brain in my head and thinking um I've I've long thought you just need to get rid of the Fed. Um and you know, the be the ability to to print money endlessly is insane. And that sort of there was a contract when they when the Fed was created with the government, they say like, "Okay, well, we can just print this money everywhere and it and it's guaranteed and backed." Basically, it's the federal government making getting a loan from the Fed and um and they just print all this money out. is always permanently backed by the by the the taxpayer and it's just like you're you're writing um you know basically you know getting loans out in someone else's name um and taking the money you know and it's it's it's just a complete con game um and I mean this was done by was it Woodro I believe it was Woodro Wilson who did this and he was he openly was saying that he had to dismantle the constitution this was old and outdated kid who was 150 years old and we oh we just got to get rid of this old relic and we need to have have brilliant people running things the way we think because obviously it's just certain specific people that should be able to uh have the the knowhow to to run everybody else's lives. Um when you think about it, you look at the original um Greek democracies. Obviously, this isn't a democracy is a republic. That's why we wanted to sort of keep it that way. It'll last longer. They typically lasted around 150 years. That's about how long we lasted before um Woodro Wilson screwed things up with the Fed and then put in the 16th amendment, which was the the federal income tax. And that needs to be repealed tomorrow. I mean that needed to be repealed 100 years ago. That should never have gone through. You know they they were trying to make that argument. It was just like we have this big World War I sort of experience. You know, we need to raise money really fast. This is national defense and all that sort. 150 years we had none of this. You know, we did just fine. We fought in a lot of wars and um and had invasions and all this sort of stuff. And yet, you know, we were still there. But they said, "Okay, well, we want to do this. We so we can raise an army really quickly." That was what it was it was purpose for was raising an army for national defense and then be able to do that quickly and it would only be like 2 3% of the income tax only during war times only to raise an army only when we actually absolutely had to but the people at the time were either knew what they were doing like Woodro Wilson that wanted to sort of subvert the constitution or they were just not as intelligent as they needed. needed to be because the original founding fathers when you read the constitution it is so tight in its language. You know the government you are not allowed to do this you can do this and nothing else. It is very clear, you know, the the the powers of the federal government are few and enumerated, specifically enumerated. And, you know, the the rights of individual are, you know, basically unlimited. And so the problem with that is that at at first they were talking about limiting it and say, okay, well, we'll put a cap on it and say, oh, 10%. And that and that can't go higher than that. We're like, if it's going to be something we only want to go like 2 3% only for wartime, only for national defense. You need to write that in. This will only be used for national defense. This will only be a temporary measure. This will never go past this amount. And that's what, you know, all these other, you know, legal, you know, sort of u, you know, documents were how they were written. And they didn't do that. They just said, yeah, federal government gets to to tax people's income. And people saying like, well, hold on. We should put in a limit. We should say, "Hey, you can't go above like 10%." They're like, "Whoa, what are you talking about 10%. We don't want this going above 3%." If you say 10%, it's going to go up to 10%. Well, if you don't say 10%. You don't say any other percent, you are tacitly saying 100%. Because there's the limit is there is no limit, right? You could even go above that, you I mean there's some some uh places where they like if you have a lot of savings it'll tax you more than your income because to tap into your savings as well. It's insane. And so uh don't get any ideas anybody and in the government. And so um immediately the federal income tax rate went up over 90% for the top bracket. Over 90%. the first income tax breaks um in the early 20s. It was only a few years after that there was a federal income tax was with um uh Calvin Culage and he dropped the top uh tax bracket down to like 70 something% 72% something like that. Massive uh growth in the economy because it was just so stifled and just like oh thank god had some air to breathe and uh you got the roaring 20s as a result of that. Um, so that needs to go. You know, the Fed obviously needs to go. Shouldn't be able just to just to have a blank check to do whatever the hell you want. Um, I mean, that was at least contained to a partial extent because you still had the Constitution at that point that was somewhat unbroken. uh where the federal government was not allowed to was not allowed to spend money for anything except the general welfare and that and everyone knew what the hell that meant. That meant national defense, something that would affect everybody. And then FDR came in, threatened to pack the courts, scared uh one of the the Supreme Court judges to flip sides. Instead of uh FDR losing four to five decisions in the Supreme Court with all the the illegal unconstitutional things he was doing, uh now he started winning five to four because he flipped one of them and um because he scared him even though the Congress, which was a Democratic Congress at the time, FDR was a Democrat, um was uh was uh was not about not about it. back then the the the three branches of government actually worked as they were supposed to saying like keeping each other in check and Congress said they hey you're overstepping your bounds. You're not going to do that. We're not going to let you. And so he said hey I want some Senate hearings for new justices and they're like we're not going to hear them. We're not going to talk to them. Piss off. And and that was his own party doing that. now parties run things as opposed to um you know the constitution and things like that which is a bit unfortunate but um but the thing is all of them love to print money every single one every politician out there running right now they they don't want to talk about the spending that they're going to do they make these promises oh we're going to give you all these goodies we're going to give you these presents and gifts and all these things are going to be so great they don't tell you that every single thing they hand down the classic one is the stimulus checks those are the ones that everyone sees like Oh, they they're so nice to me giving me $2,000. That's so nice. They don't tell you that you they permanently devalued your dollar for that and it's going to make the rest of your life harder and your kids harder, your and your grandkids lives will be harder because of that decision. They're just kicking the tab down the road to future generations. The more they do this and we see situations like Venezuela, which is way down the line. I when I was traveling in South America, I got to meet Venezuelan people that experienced that and they told me about this and it's it's absolutely horrible conditions down there that their currency is just trash. It's all over the roads. It's you need a wheelbarrow of this to just get a a towel at the store. It's completely useless that the their currency has gone to zero. And us Americans think that we're we're so good and powerful because I mean in a way we are. We have the global reserve currency. We have a lot more abilities to kick the can, but that doesn't mean that the intrinsic value of these pieces of paper is still zero. It's it's only backed by trust at this point. Nothing else. And when people stop trusting it, that's when we actually will see a change. And things will get really interesting very soon as all these other countries who used to use the dollar for trade like Russia, there's bricks, there's all sorts of interesting things going on. It's a little bit out of scope here, but long and short of it is countries are realizing we don't really want to use the dollar anymore. You guys are just printing it infinitely. We're paying the price for that. El Salvador is an example of one who just a few years ago said, you know what, they were dollarized and they just said, "We're out. We're going to go on a Bitcoin standard." So, El Salvador is completely Bitcoin legal tender. If you go there, you can buy everything with Bitcoin. They skipped all the extra steps and they just went to the next global reserve currency. And things are getting super good down there. If uh I'm actually planning on going there at some point soon. I'd love to visit. But from the people who are actually trustworthy who've been down there and experienced the whole situation, things have gotten so much better. And it's no coincidence-wise because they have a sounder form of money. And Naive Boulli came in and made a lot of changes. That's a whole different topic, but the crime rate went from one of the worst in the world to one of the best. And Bitcoin played a part in that. Hey guys, just want to take a second to thank our sponsor, Carnivore Bar. I don't promote many products because honestly all you need to be healthy is to just eat meat. For those times that you're out hiking, road tripping, or stuck at work and you want nutritious snack that is just meat, fat, and salt if you want it, the Carnivore Bar is a great option. So, I like this product not because it's just pure meat, but also because I want the carnivore market to thrive as well. And the more we support meat only products, the more meatonly products there will be available in the mainstream. So, if this sounds like something you'd like to get behind, check it out using my discount code Anthony to get 10% off, which also applies to subscriptions, giving you 25% off total. All right, thanks, guys. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. And um yeah, so you know that that's the thing, you know, the the there's already countries like you're saying that are already talking about like not, you know, replacing the the US dollar as a as the reserve world reserve currency. And when that happens, it's big trouble. And you know, some people are arguing that maybe that's probably what people are trying to do on purpose to destabilize the country and screw up the economy and screw up uh the US to tear it down and to break it down, break the constitution entirely and then, you know, bring about, you know, some sort of communist hellscape that, you know, reminiscent of the of the 20th century. Um, no thank you. But um uh yeah, you know, like that Thomas Soul talks about that how you know, printing money is just a hidden tax because if you if you print 20% money, it doesn't just put more money in the system. It's just your bank account is now worth 20% less. And so it's it's very simple math. It's very simple math. Whatever percentage money that they print and put out in the circulation, that takes away from the value of your savings. And so it's a tax on your savings. And so it's um it's very very devious. You know, before uh they did that um you know they they had you know they had to only spend money on the general welfare but then they said well you know if I give money to Ben's a good guy he's going to spend that he's going to give that to Jennifer and they're going to buy something and they're gonna that's going to go to somebody else and they're he has a family. He's going to buy food for his family and that goes to a farmer. That farmer does this. Well, that just trickles out and uh that helps everybody. And so me giving, you know,5 billion dollar, you know, stimulus bill to my buddy Ben actually does help the general welfare because it just helps everybody, right? And um you know, and uh it's it's it's a con, you know. I mean, that was something that we knew for 150 years never flew and now they just they just do it. And that's when lobbyists came in. That's when money uh entered politics because now you had these massively expensive campaigns. You had all these people um uh paying to uh get, you know, get the ear of a politician or a president and uh and then they're getting all these special interests that are in Washington and um and and paying to get federal money. And uh that only happens when you have when you can give money to special interests and that's actually strictly prohibited in the constitution. So like why the hell don't we repeal that? Why don't we take that to the Supreme Court and say like yeah I can't do that anymore. I mean that would just sort out a lot of problems right away. What would also sort out a lot of problems is you repeal the 16th amendment and if they are not able to tax people um their piggy bank goes away, you know, and uh you know, same with the Federal Reserve. So, I totally think they should go away. You know, even the idea of like, well, we need to raise money for a war. I don't actually know that that's a great idea either because previously they had you had to vote on a war because you had war bonds. they couldn't raise money to to put an army together and and build, you know, munitions and things like that. Like, we went into World War I with our the American army was less wellarmed than the American citizenry. There was like basically the the original AR-15 platform. That was that's that's preWorld War I. There were more people in America as private citizens that had those like semi-automatic uh rifles than the US Army. you know, they still still using largely like boltaction rifles and things like that. So people are saying like, "Can I just bring my own gun? Like it's it's better than this, you know, and so uh that's how it's supposed to be. It's like, oh, you don't want people having better guns in the military?" No, you you you do. You do because you don't want the military being able to oppress the citizenry. But in any case, the um the wars happened because people said uh I'll give money. I'll buy war bonds and um and if that, you know, that's something I believe in, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and I'm going to put money towards that war effort. And if enough people didn't didn't buy into it, wasn't going to happen. And so if people have a problem with, you know, some sort of invasion, they don't have to yell about it and talk about it and on CNN and bang the table. They can just say, "Yeah, well, I'm not putting money towards that." And uh and then it just fizzles out and it goes away. You know, so it's um it it actually gives uh the people a lot more power and control over how our government runs. And that's the whole point. It's a government of the people, for the people, by the people. So we just live our lives and we get to self-govern. we get to self-ruule and we get to decide whether our nation goes into war, whether things are being spent on stupid and or not. And now we've we've lost that. Now it's back to the old school uh oligarchs and monarchs and uh and and rulers, right? Where they get to make the decisions for us as opposed to us getting to make the decisions for ourselves. And um I think that uh any way that you can get the hell away from that is a good is a good option. That's really interesting that El Salvador has gone to the Bitcoin standard. I even just going to the gold standard is is a leg up. You know, there was a statistic I saw. Who knows maybe, you know, someone can fact check this. Um but something I heard that like um a hundred years ago, uh the average cost of a house in America was three bars of gold. And right now the average cost of a of a house in America is three bars of gold. And so it's a it's a it's a save against inflation, that sort of thing. But um yeah, I heard Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Salvador doing a lot of good things. I know that Dr. Jack Cruz was down there as well. He's he's still there. He's posted up. That's his home now. Yeah. And he's like he comes back. He's a neurosurgeon in um New Orleans. He just comes back for a week each month and just does like a you know trauma call or something like that. and um and uh and he's down there, but like apparently they they had him like the government had him help draft a letter where they're saying that we we will not accept the you the WHO dictating, you know, medical directives um to the country like we will not do that, you know, so piss off. So I think that's that's pretty good. And they're offering like visas to um you know professionals, doctors, lawyers, philosophers. Pretty interesting that one. You know, people that can you know are trained how to think as opposed to what to think. You know, that's probably an interesting one too. Um but yeah, do you know a bit more about the El Salvador things? That's actually sounds like they're making some some power moves there. Essentially, that's just a place where you get the Bitcoin, but you want to move it off of there quickly because that is a choke point that the government can screw with. That that's a central point of failure, that exchange. So, every one of these exchanges has a functionality where you can send that Bitcoin that you bought on the exchange to an external wallet and you can you get Blue Wallet on your phone, you can get Moon wallet, Zeus wallet. There's lots of options. is really easy.